Hello again guys. I have been in here off and on as time as permitted. I'm a rabid Packard fan who can't get one at the moment (working on it). Some of you may recall I've been working on a digital 30s vintage phaeton of my own design. Several fellows here have been extremely kind and provided me with a lot of information. The project is ongoing and doing well.

Question: are there good clean diagrams or photos of the frame mechanisms of 30s vintage senior phaetons and convertible sedans without a canvas top on?

Thanks as always,

Andacar

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Thanks Dave! Are these side mounted to the block?

Hello again. About a year ago I was asking various questions regrading pre-war Packards and several of you were kind enough to help me a lot. I have been able to take my 3D modeling project of a similar pre-war car much further thanks to the photos and suggestions I received. I have two questions:

1: Does anybody have either diagrams or pictures of the V12 motor mounts? I can't find any.

2: There is a 1937 Super 8 Limo in Oklahoma that has been advertised several times in Hemmings. The ad says it needs a complete restoration, but that some work has been done already. Does anybody know anything about the car?

Thanks very much,

Andacar

Thanks to the wonderful photos and info provided by Todd and others, I've had a chance to make some progress on the 3D model. Right now I'm roughing in general components, starting with the front suspension. It always had a frame, and I've modified it after seeing the photos to be more realistic. The V12 engine, transmission and drivetrain are just placeholders right now to give me a general location. I'll detail them later. I've put in the radiator frame mount, spindle, front axle and a leaf spring. Once I get the geometry worked out I'll detail it all. The Packard pictures Todd provided show a straight cross member close to the front spring shackles. I'm going to put diagonal braces in there instead.

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That's very kind of you. I appreciate it. I took a look at your project and I'm impressed. It's giving me an incentive to clean out my garage at last. Somebody cut it almost in half with a hastily made shop but if I Got rid of that a big old Packard of some sort would fit. I wish I could have gotten that 34 V12 Limo that was on eBay a while back. I think it was drooling over that car that made me decide to do this project (also a V12).

Thanks. Maybe I used the wrong term. I'm refering to the kind of front suspension you see in most cars up until the mid 30s or so, in which both front wheels share a common solid axle and pivot on kingpins. I was under the impression Packard went to an independant front suspension in 1935 with the 120, right? The car I'm working on would have the older design.

Thank you for your kind words. This has been a project that has taken nearly a year. It's based entirely on thousands of photographs I've found online, as well as owner's and repair manuals I've found in various places. I've gone to a bunch of local car shows but I never see anything of this vintage except for a few Fords that have been so modified that they aren't much use as reference. I see a Pierce Arrow running around town now and then, but it never shows up. I want it to be a plausable car from 1935. I'm hoping to have it down to nut and bolt detail eventually.

I need to see some good closeups of how the axle, shock (knee action isn't it?) leaf spring and tie rod assemblies are put together. I need to see how they attach to the frame. Pictures of motor mounts and perhaps the steereing and transmission linkages would be helpful too. Thank you very much. Do you have photos of your car on this site?

Darrell Leland

PS: Here's a picture of the Verna Motors company logo.

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Thanks for the quick reply tfee! Here are four images of the car I've been working on; a front and side view, a ghost view and a beauty shot. It's a phaeton in the style of the mid 30s. I even have created a history of the fictional car company and a logo. I've been using it as a "learning job" to move on to other cars (Packards in particular) later. It's needed a lot of research. It's all done in Maya 8.5 and rendered with Mental Ray. I know Maya will import ACAD DXF files, but I'm not sure about solids.

Thanks again!

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Hi guys. I haven't had a chance to post in a while. I'm a huge Packard fan and want to eventually get one, preferably a sedan or limo from 1930 - 1936. Till I can afford that (and have a place to put one), I'm creating a virtual one. I'm also a 3D modeler and I'm working on designs for cars in the early to mid 30s. I can post some pictures of cars I've worked on if anybody's interested (it's a car of my own design).

Anyway, I need pictures and diagrams of Packard front suspensions, preferably the older live axle layout. The higher resolution the better.

Thanks in advance.

Darrell Leland

Quite true, but I need to have some cash in surplus. Right now we're running on fumes over here, as they say. I've seen some very nice packards for sale in various places, but they are either pretty trashed or very expensive, though frankly less expensive than I would have thought. The big restored Packards of early to mid 30s vintage, which is what I'd be getting ideally, are in the 50-100 thousand range.