I went thru a whole quart of MMO and can of carb cleaner when I was working them up and down the 5 or 6 times I beat them back down trying to work them. Most if not all of the valves still have MMO visible under the valves that has sat on it the better part of a week. These suckers are in there good!

Well I am glad your stuck valves are playing nice, I might have a parts 49 for ya soon! lol I set out to make a slide hammer valve puller but was worried about the metal to metal contact with my valves that Tim warned about, so I am building one that has 2 loops of very strong woven cargo strap on the bottom that are crossed over each other so that when they are under the valve and you pull, it tightens down using the "Chinese finger trap" principle. A little more welding and I will be done! Hell, it MIGHT even work! We will see soon, I will post pics and results in a couple of hours either way.

"But if you use that slide hammer thing then send the valves to a machine shop for grinding."

Tim, I was concerned about that too when looking at the pic of that tool, I am going to melt several ounces of lead (carefully, I hear cancer sucks!)on to the part of my tool that will come in to contact with the underside of the valve to try and prevent this from happening. I have beat on 24 GOLD plated rims before with a lead hammer (knockoffs on my friends low rider) and it was fine, so I hope it will work. I Might just loose my cool, hulk up and rip the bastards out with my engine hoist and cut a check for new valves and guides. I think that I am going to try and talk nice to it first tho.

The PAC club seems a bit stuffy for me...I will still probably join for the periodicals tho. I am about 2 more slaps on the wrist for being uncouth away from telling them to kiss my ass over there (sorry Dave). I had to remind them that the REALLY rich guys don't ACT all rich and stuck up, only the KINDA rich ones. Lets just talk cars, accept that variety in people is the spice of life, and stop trying to out fancy pants each other (PAC site) I DO like this one, AND other then Dave over there (Owen here) this one is way more helpful, AND that one seems kinda dead as a post might stay at the top of a board for weeks! Just my $.02 I am glad that I am "ALLOWED" to give it.

Well you are the man sir! If fleabay does not have one...and I mean ending soon, I will break out the old welder and engineering hat. Thanks!!!

So I got my new (to me) valve spring compressor that was designed for these kind of motors and now I need to know what is the best way to get these valves out? I put corks in the drain holes (even the 2 small hidden ones) started with a valve that IS NOT stuck, compressed the valve spring, took out both halfs of the keeper, let the pressure off the spring, then I used the starter to bump it up so I can get my fingers under it, and that sucker is in there good! I am used to the SBC's where you just remove the valve spring and tap the valves out gently if needed. On this motor I can't get the spring out of the way UNTIL I get the valve out. I do not want to pry against the seat and can not tap it from the bottom in this application. So what is the long forgotten trick here fellas? Thanks!

Opps, hadn't looked that close. What about the other two, will they work for him? Mine shows as shipped now soo any day now!

Here ya go Joey! Hope this helps. Look around as I heard one fellow tell me that he picked one up for only $3! Mine was $20 and still very worth it!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-GM-CHEVY-antique-auto-FORD-Model-A-T-old-car-VLCHECK-VALVE-SPRING-TOOL-/370640480970?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item564be4eaca&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Early-Vtg-Valve-spring-Compressor-Franklin-Dodge-Bros-Maxwell-Ford-Model-T-Tool-/271056852569?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3f1c3f5659&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sunnen-Products-Flat-Head-Valve-Spring-Compressor-Tool-Ford-Auto-/110951247269?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d535ada5

That last one is only $.99 with $5.95 shipping and is the same maker as the one I just bought. Hope this helps, you will be the first kid on your block to have one! Steve

Stuck valves...YAAAY! Waiting on my new (to me) valve spring compressor. Don't forget the MMO fellas, this IS NOT what I would call fun.

Tim, thanks! JD was good enough to point me towards this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunnen-goodson-regis-flat-head-valve-spring-compressor-lot-589-/251146358591?pt=Motors_Automotive_Tools&hash=item3a797d4f3f&vxp=mtr

I too think a good clean and shine should do the trick. I was thinking that for the valve guide that a gun barrel brush of the right caliber will be the ticket, as they are designed for use with solvents, and for cleaning metal without scratching it. Thanks Tim and JD in KC, for my manifolds get to stay put now and for that I am grateful! Everyone else too that has chimed in so far, thanks!