Re: John’s ‘53 Caribbean
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I run diamondback auburns on my 53 caribbean in the 8.20x15 size. I can certainly approve they are nice tires for a packard.
Posted on: 10/9 15:50
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Re: Mike's 53 Clipper
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October the clipper will be at home and the caribbean will be in storage. I swapped in an NOS gas gauge that has the right color. Amazing how these part stashes have survived over the years.
Posted on: 10/1 7:09
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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Yay!!! The solenoid install was easy. I put a little dab of grease on the shaft so that the seal would not get torn/wounded. 1/4 turn to install, and it was hooked in just right. The top bolt is a little bit of a pain to start and to tighten, but I got it. I took a short test drive ~12 miles, and kickdown is working well now. Carla is a little bit speedier now!
There is also much less noise coming from the doors now, which is also nice. I installed some dynamat type suff on the doors to quiet things down. It has made a positive difference. -similar to what Kevin did on his 54 Panama. I was a little concerned about bending the spring just because I was not so confident the bending would be a permanent fix. We will see after I take a long drive and everything gets hot, then I'll give the kickdown a try and see if that spring is still closing the contacts properly. Thanks for the tips!
Posted on: 9/28 8:42
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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I'm just going to try some judicial bending and see if I can get the ground contacts to work again. When re-installing the solenoid, the Packard manual mentions rotating 1/4 turn and then aligning the bolt holes. Some online sources say you should energize the solenoid while you install it....Is there an agreed best practice?
Cheers!
Posted on: 9/28 4:38
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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OK, I removed the cover from the solenoid, and can see that the top set of points is not closing when the shaft moves. The spring looks like it was heated up by too much current going through it. I guess this was hooked up wrong at some point in its history.
Is it ok to just try and bend the spring down to get the points to close? Or, is this solenoid toast? If I take those two little nuts off, I'm guessing the spring from the main solenoid will come out, so I don't want to take those off. Some judicial bending the next step? It would be nice to fix this with a tweak instead of buying a new/used solenoid.
Posted on: 9/26 14:29
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There are two coil spring spacers in each front coil of my caribbean. There were there when I got the car, and I left them in. I don't really love them, since theoretically it is not such a good fix, but the ride is ok with them in there. I had the front end apart two years ago, and installed them with the springs out of the car, but I think they should be able to get stuffed in/out when the suspension is at full droop. -I think a coil spring guru would say that there is some risk in binding or breaking a spring when using these spacers, but I have been driving on them for some time and they are OK.
Posted on: 9/26 9:52
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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Making some progress...I removed the solenoid and gave it a little clean and wire brush treatment. At rest, there is continuity between terminal 4 and the case, this must be the windings of the coil of the solenoid. that's good. Terminal 6 to ground is open when the solenoid is at rest. That is also good. I used the 6V car battery, and some jumper cables to apply positive to the ground and negative to terminal 4, and the shaft gets about 1/4 or 1/3 inch shorter. I guess that is also correct. When voltage is applied to the solenoid, I still have no connection to ground from terminal 6. If I push the shaft into the slenoid about ~1/2 inch or so, then I get the ground continuity to terminal 6 of the solenoid.
Is the actuation of the solenoid only supposed to be 1/4 inch? is there a spec on the travel of the shaft? It seems like the solenoid pulls enough to engange the OD, but not far enough to engange the second set of contacts. I used jumper cables from the battery to the solenoid, so there should be enough current getting to the winding. I double checked that the wire going from the kickdown switch goes to the side of the coil that the points are connected to. That is also right. Next step open up the solenoid and bend things so that the ground points close earlier? Or somehow get the solenoid to pull ~1/2 inch? (thanks Ross for the help and description of how this works) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Edit: I was doing something wrong before...I re -connected things, with some better wiring, and was able to get the solenoid shaft to extend with a nice snap about 3/4 inch or so. However, with my meter attached to pin 6 and ground, I got no beep. -so no continuity. I guess I need to take the lid off of the solenoid.
Posted on: 9/26 9:46
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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Taking a short brake from doors to figure out why the kickdown function on my R11 overdrive is not working. I have already checked that the four wires from the kickdown switch to the coil, lockout switch, relay and solenoid are correct, and also that the kickdown switch is correctly opening and closing the circuits as it should. So far, the easy stuff looks good. Wiring and kickdown switch are good.
I performed a test that is included in the instruction manual of the "Warner Automatic Overdrive" : With the engine running, I grounded terminal 6 of the solenoid (wire 45-GBK, the one that goes to the B posts of the kickdown switch) and then actuated the kickdown switch. This shut off the engine, by grounding out the ignition coil. Reading the BW instruction manual, it seems like the solenoid is not internally closing a contact like it should when it is actuated....I guess I need to remove the solenoid, but dont want to do that unless I am sure. Can somebody confirm this is a solenoid problem? The overdrive works fine otherwise. The relay clicks, the overdrive enganges as usual, and disenganges when I get too slow. The cut in/out speed does seem to vary sometimes, but besides no kickdown, the OD works OK. In the OD trouble shooting section of the packard manual, page 21 point 4.(e) for "failure to disengage" says, "Overdrive relay faulty. Ground-out unit not operating." To check this, it says check operation of relay with a test lamp. I'm not sure how to do this. It would be easier to fix or change the relay than the slenoid...Can one of the OD geniuses help me out here? I'm OK with a multi-meter or test light, so if there are any other tests I can do before pulling a solenoid, I would be happy to do that. Thanks guys.
Posted on: 9/26 5:26
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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Thanks Kevs, (Kevins?)
There were a buch of things loose, so just tightening everything will be an improvement, but new window runs will be the final Touch later on. The internal mechanism on the lock is the same as big kev's front doors, and like my clipper. However the rod that you push/pull with your Fingers is different. The caribbean has an L shaped rod, and that is what you can see sticking horizontal out the door. I installed a plastic piece cut from an ice cream container, a rubber washer, and a rubber sleeve inside the metal washer so nothing jiggles. We will see if the lock works when I get the door cards back on.
Posted on: 9/25 15:42
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Re: Mike's 53 Caribbean
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Thanks for the tip about Rubber the right way. I ordered some more fuzzies and window channels just like in your Panama. Some bitumen sound deadening is also in the mail. I hope to get the doors feeling solid and rattle free.
Cleaning and lubing the lock mechanism has helped, and I put a plastic disk, and a rubber washer behind the metal washer to quiet up the lock mechanism. I'll have to make sure everyting still works when I put the door panel back on. The bent threaded rod in my last pic actually looks OEM. The washers are a little hokey, but they seem to work. I'll post a pic later of my washer/spacer setup that feels pretty good.
Posted on: 9/25 9:27
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