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Re: Dead short
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Sorry for the late response, and thanks for all the help. Ross was right. I crossed the wires on the solenoid. Lots of reasons, but no excuses. It was good practice to R&R the solenoid and voltage regulator. Pics wouldn't necessarily be helpful, except to show wire placement on the voltage regulator. Not a bad idea to mark the solenoid leads, too.

This may be obvious to the readership of this forum, but do not try replacing the starter solenoid in the dark, with the battery hooked up, even if you've seen these components a million times. I was very fortunate that there was no permanent damage to myself or my electrical system. BTW there were slight differences between mounting the original voltage regulator and my new one, so I just put the old one back on, and the new one back in the trunk.

Posted on: 2023/5/29 14:22
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Re: Dead short
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Quote:

Ross wrote:
The only thing changed was the solenoid, so that is the most likely reason for a sudden change in the status quo. Highly unlikely that a major short randomly developed on its own. Reason for changing was?? Please post a picture of the starter and solenoid as there were two types used on the 54 cars.


It was kind of the only thing I could think of at the time, because the car had been starting so erratically, and it's always been super reliable.

I had the solenoid in the trunk, and a new Voltage regulator, and lots of parts for everything electrical, and the starter solenoid was by far the simplest, most obvious thing. If I start posting pics right now I am afraid they will just become more confusing. I think that at times, a dead short and a complete open at the same time could be the most frustrating thing I've ever had to track down. But God willin' I might have it going yet tonight...

Posted on: 2023/4/21 19:05
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Re: Dead short
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Well, I think I about got it . . pics and everything.

Well just about done but i qain't gonna do anything in a thundersleetrianlighninghail

Posted on: 2023/4/19 20:45
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Re: Dead short
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ARM wire red, I guess. I think thi will do it.

Also noted. Tiny little ground strap is hanging loose by the regulator

Posted on: 2023/4/19 20:33
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Re: Dead short
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I don't use a meter Much. Headlights work for quick checs. Have the Voltag Regulatot off. Pics coming. Howard, you have a pm. No worries so far. thanks to all

Posted on: 2023/4/19 20:22
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Re: Dead short
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thanks onceagain, Howard. I just hooked up the charger to the battery now, and that's all good. Replace the solenoid in the dark and cold last Saturdy. I will pill the Voltage Regulator next. I think that'll tell the tale,

guy

Posted on: 2023/4/19 13:52
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Dead short
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Dead Short on 6V positive Ground '54 Clipper Electrical system?

It was sluggish stareting since got out of storage this Spring. Battery seemed unable to take a charge, ran on the generator, I guess. Replaced starter Solenoid, put in new battery. Sparls when trying to connect new battery.

Anybody?

Posted on: 2023/4/19 11:03
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Re: Fuel Pump on '54
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I thought it was all interconnected, but it makes sense there is a separate source of vacuum just for the brakes. I was not aware of the popularity of the Eas-A-Matic in '54. The car has PB and PS along with the three-speed OD manual trans, which may be a less common combination. IDK. Once again, I'll mention that it is advisable to make sure the hand brake is operational and can stop the car if there is a brake failure. I practice this maneuver on occasion so it is familiar to me.

Another little safety measure I have taken is to remove the hood ornament. It's quite a weapon in even a minor mishap. It's easy off and easy on, two screws, and you can get creative with plugging the holes with your own ornamentation. Wish I could get a shield like the one on the Caribbeans. Fat chance, I suppose.

Two other advantages: you don't stick yourself when washing and waxing, and it doesn't get stolen. I'd put it back on if I show it, of course.

Posted on: 2019/10/15 12:32
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Re: Fuel Pump on '54
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Thanks for all your help. I'll let you know if the change from AC to Carter presents any problems on the install. Just looking at it, the Carter seems a bit more robust design, however, warning, it is said to be more rare than the AC, according to... Kanter! Thus, they require an exchange- the old pump must be returned before the new one is shipped. They were nice enough to grant me an exception on this, as the car would have been out of commission in the interim, and the mechanic balked at having a dead car to move around the shop for a couple of days.

I still kind of wonder if the different vacuum connection will present any problem with my Power Brakes, which I think were rare in '54.

Maybe the flexible vacuum lines should be replaced throughout. They look original.

I was also was wondering about the 2-barrell carb and fuel pressure that HH mentioned. There has been some seepage from the carb at times, perhaps due to the extra fuel pressure = but again, I'm no expert (except I'm getting to be more of one on this car).

Posted on: 2019/10/14 13:00
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Fuel Pump on '54
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I thought I'd throw this out to the group:

My '54 Clipper Deluxe with 327 ci engine developed a fuel pump leak.
The pump in there now is an AC, but the Service Manual calls for a Carter.

I want to put the correct pump in. Is the swap from an AC to a Carter pump difficult? My mechanic, who has worked on the car often, seemed skeptical.

Maybe I screwed up and the AC is correct for a '54? The Shop Manual came out when the '54s were just being built. It shows the Seniors having the AC.

Kind of complicating matters is that the car has Power Brakes. I'm wondering if that made a difference in which fuel pump Packard put in. I doubt the AC that is in there now is original, though. It has been molested for sure, and was probably a rebuild, or could be the original with an amateur rebuild.

Any insights are much appreciated.

Posted on: 2019/10/13 14:09
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