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Solenoid not engaging
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Tried to turnover my '54 Clipper a few nights ago.
Sounds like the starter was rotating but the solenoid would not engage??? I'm guessing.

WHIRRING/SPINNING noise from the starter but nothing else.

Any ideas?

Posted on: 2008/11/14 9:00
1954 Packard Clipper Deluxe (not running)
1967 Pontiac GTO Convertible
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Re: Solenoid not engaging
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vanman, I think you answered your own question. There are a number of causes once you have made sure that the electrical connections are tight and battery is charged. From my trusty old MOTOR'S Auto Repair manual (1935-56) I gleaned the following;
1. Bendix pinion stuck on shaft due to gum or dirt or possibly a bent shaft.
2.Bendix spring broken
3.Bendix spring bolt broken
4.Pinion housing cracked.
5.Drive key sheared
6.Pinion teeth broken
7.Starter ring gear has several teeth broken
8.Armature shaft broken.
Probably now is a good time to remove the starter and have a good look. Possibly all it needs is a good cleaning?

Posted on: 2008/11/14 10:52
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Re: Solenoid not engaging
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From the pics in the parts manual, the solenoid only supplies power to the motor. The bendix drive assembly is moved outward because of the armature rotation, not because of the solenoid. It sounds as though your problem lies with the bendix. You'll have to pull out the starter and have it checked.
Dumb suggestion - don't forget to disconnect the battery.

Posted on: 2008/11/14 10:55
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Re: Solenoid not engaging
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OK. Here I go stating the obvious. Is our battery fully charged? If not there may not be enough power to spin the Bendix into the flywheel. I know you know this. Either way I think your est bet is to remove the starter and check it or have it checked.
Good luck. I hope it is just dirty.

Posted on: 2008/11/14 15:23
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1949 Club Sedan
1947 Custom Sedan
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Re: Solenoid not engaging
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Thanks guys.
The battery is VERY questionable and she was stored in a garage untouched for 13 years.

Will pull the starter. What battery specs should I look for in a new one; besides 6V

Posted on: 2008/11/18 8:51
1954 Packard Clipper Deluxe (not running)
1967 Pontiac GTO Convertible
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Re: Solenoid not engaging
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You won't have as many choices in a battery as we used to have. Pick the one with the most cold cranking amps (CCA) that still fits the battery carrier (base) and has a height that still clears the hood and hood pad (if installed).

Some folks prefer the Optima batteries, but if appearance is important to you you'll have to get one concealed in a hard rubber case and be prepared to pay. I've had good luck with traditional lead acid batteries, and especially in 6 volt I usually get 6 years or so from them.

Posted on: 2008/11/18 9:31
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