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Keith, thanks.
Randy, read the article, it explains exactly how the Mercedes system differed from the Packard version. Let me give you that link again: 300SL Quote: Two Master cylinders were placed in front of the brake pedal separately serve the front and rear brakes. The fluid reservoir is positioned directly above the master cylinders...... If the BTV is so safe and never suffered from failure in the '50s, WHY did Mercedes Benz replace it with something else in 1955?????
Posted on: 2010/11/22 21:39
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Since obviously some folks have had BTV fail on them, while others have been driving their's for years, and even putting significant mileage on them, why dont we focus on the exact reason while the ones that failed did so.
I think it's well known how several people feel about them, so derailing every BTV thread in a doom and gloom session is just getting old and doesn't serve any positive benefit to getting the issue addressed. If you want to carry on a conversation about alternatives to the BTV, then that is what the Modification forum is for. Frankly we are running out of snow to piss in, and the website's snow making machine is broken.
Posted on: 2010/11/22 21:46
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Kevin, it isn't a matter of "doom and gloom", it's a documented fact across several makes of automobiles that have used this particular unit. Ignoring the facts will not make them go away.
Posted on: 2010/11/22 21:48
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And once again that has been brought up repetitively for the last 4 years across these forums.
GM who put the BTVs in Millions of vehicles didn't have a mass problem with them. I believe there is a problem that can occur in these units and cause a problem. The purpose of this thread is to come up with the reason for the those isolated failures. Yes isolated. Cause we are not hearing from a majority of people saying there units failed, we are hearing "loudlly" from a small minority of people relevant to the population of BTV equipped vehicles owners out there. So lets stop pissing in the wind and move on to finding the reason.
Posted on: 2010/11/22 21:59
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If people can keep the discussion mature and professional, I like hearing both sides of the argument. However, some of the discussions reminds me of Jack Nicholson saying "Honey I'm home".
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Posted on: 2010/11/22 22:01
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A search on the internet will show you that this is not a case of "we are hearing "loudlly" from a small minority of people relevant to the population of BTV equipped vehicles owners out there." It's spread across multiple makes and multiple years of production, even when the units were new.
But it's ok, we can just sweep this discussion under the rug like everything else around here. Heaven forbid that we actually solve something.
Posted on: 2010/11/22 22:02
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I think there is a valid attempt at trying to figure out the reason for the BTV failures, as opposed to simply throwing the baby out with the bathwater. But perhaps you have just out grown the website with your infinite experience, wisdom and knowledge. I wouldnt want to hold you back.
Posted on: 2010/11/22 22:12
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Nice sarcasm. I'm just going off of past experiences with threads getting locked, that's all.
The point of all of this thread is to either find a solution to the BTV problem, or replace the unit with something safer. It doesn't take "infinite experience, wisdom and knowledge" to know something is dangerous, all it takes is a little research to come to that conclusion. People can bash me all they want, but everyone needs to realize that I'm just trying to make their lives safer by making them more knowledgeable about the subject at hand. And I know that if multiple people are experiencing multiple failures across multiple makes and different rebuilders then there's something rotten in Denmark.
Posted on: 2010/11/22 22:18
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I lock threads when the conversation gets repetitive, like it's getting now, with no real constructive forward progress.
I think everyone and their brother knows your opinion on the BTV. I can probably find 100 messages here on the website where your opinion on the BTV is stated in detail. So interjecting the same information/opinion over and over doesn't really help move anything along, it just makes people tune out. It's like trying to win a debate by simply being the loudest. So if you have new information on how to actually fix the BTV to solve the failures that some folks are having, that doesn't involve replacing it with something else, then please proceed. If not, then let it go.
Posted on: 2010/11/22 22:30
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