Re: Cormorant, Swan or something else?
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Thanks Kevin - I enjoy the early "birds" with upswept wings.
I also like the "Egyptian". I always thought the birds were swans, but the bird in the Packard crest is a Pelican. I guess some uppity types think that is not dignified enough, so they started calling it a Cormorant. Whatever you call it, the early versions with upswept wings are gorgeous. Call them whatever you want, but just enjoy them.
Posted on: 2012/11/19 17:54
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Hey Kevin,
How about the 55 or 56 Sr streamlined cormorants? BTW, a car manufacturer could not get them past OSHA/EPA today because they're too dangerous with all those sharp edges. Prior to 55/56, I like the 53/54 curved neck swans with the very long tail going back about 1/2 the hood length (you show 2 examples). IIHC, that's the one that Sue Ann is going to put on her Packard Pickup.. Oh heck, I like them all, like Randy said. Craig
Posted on: 2012/11/19 18:39
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Here are some digipix I took at the 1999 Centennial meet in Orange CA (PI).
Gold plated, no less: Reclining naked lady: Horsehead (what does this signify?) 1955 Senior stylized and streamlined cormorant:
Posted on: 2012/11/19 19:09
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Thanks Randy & Craig,
I've pulled out the Kimes bible and it seems that there has always been controversy about what the bird is or was. Some advertising called it a cormorant in the 20's and Hugh Ferry referred to it as a "pious pelican" in internal documents in the late 40's. I've spent the last half hour on youtube and now I think that our Packard bird is a fusion of several species. Part cormorant, grebe, loon or even pelican, but it doesn't matter. All beautiful examples on our autos should just be enjoyed as you mentioned. I added a couple of other pics. Have a good evening gentlemen.
Posted on: 2012/11/19 20:49
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I like the gold one! I have thought about obtaining a nice 1951 ornament, mounting several small strong magnets in the base and positioning it on the hood of the Caribbean at cruises. Now before the purists scream at me, I will remind you it is my automobile and "beauty is in the eye..."
Naturally I would remove it while driving, but in my mind's eye it would still be there.
Posted on: 2012/11/19 20:53
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Is the gold one original? I've seen a photo of a gold bird and base, but only one. I do so enjoy the Packard hood ornaments, they give our cars such distinction
Posted on: 2012/11/19 21:22
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The horse head signifies the taste and desire of the car's original owner, who started Maybelline. There was never another ornament on the car, which was custom built by Bohmann & Schwartz.
Posted on: 2012/11/19 21:40
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Cormorants are related to Pelicans, per this excerpt in Wikipedia:
...all evidence agrees that the cormorants and shags are closer to the darters and Sulidae (gannets and boobies), and perhaps the pelicans and/or even penguins, than to all other living birds. (Kennedy et al. (2000), Mayr (2005)) Though I always refer to it as a Cormorant, I think calling it a Pelican would also be acceptable.
Posted on: 2012/11/19 22:36
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