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The window regulator on my 1954 senior car eventually broke, (It hasn't been smooth for a while) after a passenger really wanted to get the window down in a drive through.

It is the driver side on the back on a long wheel-base 1954 sedan.

I kind of wonder, do those cars share the same window regulator from 1951-1953? (I am sure most parts just fit in 1954, as it was an added model year, except some changes we know) And if the front window regulator is the same as the rear one, or they are different? and do senior cars share the window regulator with junior, short wheel-base cars, or they use different parts? (if they share them it would be a lot easier for me to buy the parts)

Oh, did 1955-1956 cars use the same part here? It might be one of those parts they preferred to carry-over to keep the costs down.

Besides the window regulator, the knob fell off on the front window crank but that seems to be an easier part to find, even in the same colour, so I am not terribly worried about it.

Presuming your car is the 5451 body, it looks like the complete regulator for a left rear door is only shared with the 53 LWB models. 55-6 didn't have any LWB cars and regular cars didn't seem to share window parts with earlier years either. If it is a left front door regulator you need, there are a lot of shares possible there.




Have you taken the regulator out to see exactly what is damaged? It could be that the entire regulator might not be shared due to the shape of the regulator or the length of the lifting arm but possibly something could be repaired. If not, some of the internal parts might be shared with regular models and possibly could be swapped in or if a regular car arm is short, possibly a section could be welded on.

I believe this is the correct part for your car. Gives you lots of models to choose from that used the same regulator.

Thank you for the information!

I think it is my fault for not including the body number. Mine is 5402 - Packard Cavalier Touring Sedan #5472,
thus it is the long wheel-base sedans (I didn't mean a limousine)

What do think is the issue? I was guessing it was part 30.386, but maybe it's 30.3863?

When people get in the back seat of my '53 Cavalier, also just the "little" touring sedan, they comment that it's like a limousine!

I haven't taken it apart to see. It is jammed with a bit of freeplay.

As the last resort, I can always get it out and send it to a restoration shop for refurbishment but that would be expensive (as their rate is a bit high) and slow (they are the only proper antique car restoration shop within 2hrs, after the other one in the town working on woody wagons burned down in 2021/2022) and that might take like 2 months, and I am working with the Feds on an international criminal investigation which surely doesn't help, time or attention wise.

but of course it is quicker&easier if existing parts can be found.

Thank you for the diagram!

Upon seeing this, getting in the garage and trying it few times, I think the issue is obviously the 30.386

Because it slides up and down at the lower three quarter travel fine, it just gets stuck at the remaining quarter. If 30.3863 breaks down, it wouldn't have worked at the bottom three quarter of the window.

I am thinking, more likely than not, it would be the gear rack got bad for 30.386 around the tooth where it is stuck

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Pull it apart and see what's going on, maybe one of the arms has jammed up and just needs a little TLC? I know on my 53 Cavalier if the armrest screws get reversed it messes with part 30.398 and causes the window to bind. Guess how I know! The windows should go up and down quite smoothly.

I think the term such as touring sedan for this model was just a placeholder. I used to work in all of the big three and the actual product code can be very different than whatever names the marketing team comes up with. It might be just a generic term for their senior car without causing unintended consequences.

As we know already, those long wheel-base Packard models were the core product, often used by many people as state car in the 1930s. Such people sometimes didn't even use senior cars but junior cars! (that fictional King in Tintin?)
bdaddik.com/en/vehicles-vessels/4450-col ... ard-n28-124-2020-2992800000008.html
For example, Henry Puyi had one Packard, as seen here
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Puyi%27s_Cadillac.JPG
ignore the terrible description. Expecting an ordinary Chinese visitor to tell a Packard was unrealistic.

The same car is mentioned here
packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/newbb ... 6318&post_id=178181#forumpost178181

and here
you.m.autohome.com.cn/details/bigimage?t ... _index=14&pageIndex=1&seriesId=3518

I was reminded of this as a friend of my mom visited the museum a few days ago. Of course I haven't told her the car I have, otherwise she might be expecting much more financially from me.

And as you know by the early 50s the prestige of Packard was fading in the US, but internationally, senior Packard was still somewhat common at the level of state car or official car, among the elites such as Greek Princess, and someone senior in Malaysian government.

So it was still a fitting limousine in a sense, just like how 90s RWD Cadillac Fleetwood was often used as state car or for diplomatic purposes. (the CCP really bought a lot of those and hanged on to them around Beijing Olympic Games! Shanghai government had a lot of those too back then, as one of my classmate's dad did back in Shanghai. He was very unpleased about the fuel economy) But frankly as an owner of that car myself, I am not too impressed by its build quality and after fall out with GM (due to other criminal matters on their end) I am still trying to sell the car.

The CCP and KMT were probably the only political entities using 1997-2005 Buick Park Avenue for diplomatic matters, as the prestige of those cars was unfitting for that kind of matter obviously, I just don't understand why they loved those FWD Park Avenue very much. 97-03 Park Avenue could be seen in news footage about Six-party talks. North Koreans were hanging on to their 126s!

I guess in this sense, senior Packard in the 50s was much better at this role at the time.
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When people get in the back seat of my '53 Cavalier, also just the