Yes, the rear seal can be replaced without pulling the engine but it's not a fun or quick job to do.

Do I understand you correctly that coincidently with this noise, the engine has developed a roughness at idle and rocks back and forth in the mounts?

You won't find a "new" casting, you're going to have to start contacting the Packard parts mongers to find a used pump or pump body. You might start by going thru the parts books and finding which years and models used the same pump and then contacting Kanters, Max Merritt, etc., but most if not all guys that would sell this pump as a rebuilt will require a rebuildable core which you don't have. If you don't have any luck there, then I'd suggest you go thru the PAC directory for members who have a car that uses the same pump, and just start calling them, hoping that one of them has a spare pump they're willing to sell.

It's a long, expensive process but cast iron can be repaired by welding. It requires the part to be heated first, then welded, and then cooled at a very gradual rate over a period of days or weeks. One place I know that does such repairs is Automotive Restorations on Rte 22 East in Lebanon, New Jersey. Ask for Steve. But it's not going to be inexpensive.

The crack in your casting was probably caused by some jackass tightening the packing nut when there was no packing present.

Noisy lifters and rapping rod bearings are distinctly different sounds and a good mechanic should be able to tell them apart rather easily. Washing the bearings from lots of gasoline diluting the crankcase oil is certainly possible, but if you want to be sure, drop the oil pan and inspect the bearings. At some point I believe all owners of V8 Packards should be doing this even in the absence of problems, if for no other reason than to clean the pan and intake screen, and get some peace of mind.

Any idea of prior history of this engine? Total mileage? What kind of care it had? Frequency of oil/filter changes, etc.?

Curious, both Turnquist and Marvin give the 41 version as #794, so it would appear both Turnquist and Marvin are incorrect for 1942. Just an example of what can happen when we rely on secondary sources of information; data for one publication just gets copied from another assuming the prior work to be correct. Glad this got cleared up, I'm going to amend my sources with pencil.

The Kimes /Clark catalog says 894. Is it not right?

Both the Turnquist and Robert Marvin books list the 2007 Rollson AW carbiolet as #897. I don't have an original Packard reference for absolute proof.

Gusha, that I believe is the Turnquist car photographed at the Mount Olive (NJ) CCCA Grand Classic. But it's a different body style than the picture West posted and now that he's given us the answer, I can just see a tiny bit of the roof over the driver's area. Wouldn't have noticed it and wouldn't have noticed from the rear that it's a 42, not a 41

But West, isn't it a body style #897, not #894? I'm so glad you posted this, I didn't know if any were even built, much less survived.

Appears to be a 1941 180 formal sedan (1907-1432) which would make it pretty exclusive, though at this point it would appear for all practical purposes to be an organ donor car. I'll never understand why so many cars loose their delivery (patent) plates! Is it just so they can be put on eBay for $50 and forever destroy the chance of verifying the car's history? I even dislike seeing new patent plates on a restored car, all nicely engraved - always raises the question if the data was faithfully copied from the original, or if its just a fraud. Gosh, there are enough of them (frauds, that is), convertibles from coupes, Twelves for Super Eights, etc.

I've studied the photo for a bit, and it just looks like a 41 180 formal (1907-1432), like the one Bob Turnquist has. What am I missing?

One of the 2 known 1942 Custom Super Clipper sedans was at Hershey this year, parked just behind PAC's tent. I believe it may have been this one as the color appears the same.

Courtesy of The Packard Club's article on the postwar Derhams from 1976, here's 3 photos. The 47 Clipper 4 door convertible is the near-twin to the one shown earlier in this thread, but this one is identified as the Sheik of Kuwait's car. The 22nd series Super Eight town car obviously also involved a fair bit of panel work, but the 22nd Series Custom 8 sedan appears to be no more than a slightly gussied-up standard car, perhaps with smaller oval back window? Hope you enjoy them.

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