Mal, According to the kimes book (pages 780/81) the Twin Six 3-35. Model Years 1920 - 1923. Series - Third. Introduced August 1919 Current to June 1923. Motor Serial Numbers 21000 To Approximately 22300.
Body Numbers 160130 To Approximately 165662.

Possibly Packard were focusing on their 6 cylinder and more fuel efficient (if that mattered then) engine, the Twelve being 7 years old in 1922.

The new 6 cylinder engine was introduced September 1st 1920 to April 20th 1923.

Shame we don't have more information. Then again, we're not the only one with such difficulties: Read this week that Cerberus sacked the Chrysler Engineering Library Librarian and told anyone who wished to they could carry away whatever they wanted.

Shame if that's true.

I agree with Turbopackman, - this car came with both the Packard engine and Ultramatic transmission so should be included.

In a sense, "all" cars made after the 1954 Studebaker Purchase could be included as they were products of the Packard Motor Company (though called SP then Studebaker Corp.)

Some would say you bought a Studebaker (Laughs). Congratulations, there weren't many 1957s made in any case.

Suggest you join the Studebaker Drivers Club Forum and ask there, many knowledgeable and helpful folks who will be delighted to assist you.

Maybe Studebaker International can assist too, if not they may be able to point you in the right direction.

When you consider that the 1957/58 "Packards" were basically tarted up Studebakers, I feel sure that many parts including glass are available.

Just ask and see what happens.

Best of luck and don't forget to send Mal a photo and details for his records.

I turned 50 on 9/20 this year.
Have had my Studebelle (1962 Lark 4 door sedan) for a couple of years and she's lovely. Did 120 Miles last weekend like she was a new car.

One reason that Studebaker ran out of cash was the decision of management to avoid union troubles by giving the unions whatever they wanted including high wages with low productivity.

I have read on the SDC forums that sometimes a Studebaker employee arrived for work, stamped their timecard then left to play golf and got a day's pay for doing nothing.

It was a difficult time for independents in any case after the war, the majors had good sources of steel the independents didn't. Packard also took a while to get back into production due to their stored machinery being damaged and having to be rebuilt.

Owen is correct, Curtiss-wright seem to me to have picked the eyes out of SP and dumped them to thier fate.

3 reasons have been given for Packard's failure:
1) They let Clare Briggs talk them into ending their own body production in favour of Briggs (was OK until he died and his family sold the business to Chrysler to meet inheritance taxes, needless to say Chrysler didn't want to make bodies for a competitor);
2) The damage to their production equipment which was stored during the war took a while to repair, giving other manufacturers a head start);
3) Most important of all at the time was their difficulty obtaining supplies of steel, GM and Ford, probably Chrysler too had connections (or owned) in the steel-making industry and smaller companies like Packard had to wait.

Regardless, we can be proud of our vehicles, after all who else can claim to have once been the best car in the world?

This site is just as good as the Studebaker Drivers Club Forum, new folks to the SDC forum are amazed at the number of responses they get to their "Hi, I just bought ....and need this part/info" questions.

John

I feel it's important for Packard/Studebaker folks to help each other as there isn't the same aftermarket support for our vehicles like there is for Chrysler GM and Ford where you can almost build a new car from the catalogs.

Thanks for the comments Steve, you can look at it this way -What do you do when your factory has closed and all your documentation has been burnt but you still want to offer a Packard in the hope of keeping the Marque alive? Why, you use what you have and so we got what we did.

Cheers

John

People can fantasize all they want that Packard died before WW2 etc, the car died in 1958.

This page may help, if not join the SDC forum and ask on the technical page.

http://www.studebaker-info.org/rjtechx3.html#Engines

Hope this helps you.

John

Thanks Mate (smile)!!! I got in touch with Rob Trembath and he's going to keep me in the loop, and maybe I can come on the Packard KI run as the Studebaker is a S-P product, in anycase apart from my new Ford Focus Turbodiesel it's all I have.

Cheers

John