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Re: Hard Starting - Where to go now?
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Mark Graber
Hi Owen,
Never mind, found the guidance in the tune-up document - Thanks.
Mark

Posted on: 2012/7/3 14:22
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Re: Hard Starting - Where to go now?
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Mark Graber
Hi Owen,
The P-Valves will probably be the start. Problem is, I am not familiar with them. I assume they are inside the carb, but can you describe what I am looking for and then, what is the adjustment procedure? Or, can you point me to some reference - I come up with nothing in the Service Manual.
Thanks!!

Posted on: 2012/7/3 14:03
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Re: Hard Starting - Where to go now?
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Mark Graber
All of you guys are great and all of your suggestions seem like rational possibilities. I really appreciate the way different areas of expertise come into play on this site to help those of us who are not so mechanically inclined, but still love driving Packards.

Packard V8/Owen - the insulator block is there, I think, but I will double check, and I do notice some gas at the base of the carb. Probably going to the carb eventually.

Howard - The replacement battery was slightly tailer than the old one but had higher cranking amps. I had to replace the ground cable from a braided wire style to an insulated cable - I will see if I can find a longer braided style to fit and also do the test procedures you suggest. Thanks for remembering that I had the new wiring installed.

Gator/Harrybar - timing/vacuum are easy checks to make -thanks.

Thanks guys - I will keep you posted on how things go. Happy Independence Day to All,
Mark

Posted on: 2012/7/3 12:06
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Re: Hard Starting - Where to go now?
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Mark Graber
Oh, by the way, she runs well after she starts. I get some very small amount of black soot and water right after she starts. Compression test results were OK.


She seems to stumble and run a bit rough when the OD is engaged and I think that is a separate, secondary issue.

Posted on: 2012/7/3 1:19
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Hard Starting - Where to go now?
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Mark Graber
Hello Packard Friends and Greetings from the Last Frontier,
Here's the problem with my '47 Custom Super (356) that I am awakening after about a 10 year slumber.

She absolutely will not start when the temperature gauge is anywhere near or above warm (even with electric fuel pump on). When cold, she will start within 5 seconds or so of starter engaging, and pedal all the way down (as she was designed to do). An immediate restart after highway speeds is not a problem, but once she gets warm/hot as from extended idle or city driving, only a 20 minute cool down will get her going again. Note that 75 degrees is a warm day here, so extreme ambient temps should not be an issue, and she has never overheated on me. Cooling system seems perfect.

Things done so far by reputable restoration shop or me, include the following:

1. Carburetor rebuilt and sticking accelerator pump fixed.
2. Full tune-up (new plugs, points adjusted, new condenser(me), timing set, carb adjusted).
3. New coil, new rotor(me).
4. Rebuilt mechanical fuel pump installed (me). Auxiliary electric fuel pump has been installed, in-line fuel filter replaced with new. Inside of gas tank inspected and looked clean.
5. Heat shields on fuel pump and carb are in place.
6. New, strong battery.

As the starter switch is under the accelerator pedal, my resto shop added an extra starter button under the dash in case of flooding. Use of this switch with or without some pumping of accelerator doesn't help - engine just turns over but does not catch.

Rather than launch willy-nilly with ignition wires(look good), voltage regulator, distributor work or other stuff, I would appreciate suggestions on how to diagnose and proceed in a logical fashion to achieve reliable re-starts.
Thanks in advance,
Mark

Posted on: 2012/7/3 1:10
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Re: Was there do it yourself maintenance?
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Mark Graber
Good Service Lives on...
My Dad was salesman and bought a lot of gas and service, mostly from the Mobil station down the street. The owner of that station had a son who now services my Mom's '81 Oldsmobile coupe. Mom is 92 and will soon hang up the keys. Who ever thought Olds would be an orphan car...but that's for another thread.

Posted on: 2012/6/28 23:26
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Mark Graber
Hello Friends,
Since I have the radio out of the Clipper, I am considering sending it to America for a repair/rebuild. Can someone make a recommendation for good service?
Thanks very much,
Mark

Posted on: 2012/6/28 23:16
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Re: How are folks doing?
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Mark Graber
No complaints from the Last Frontier. Our four-day 80 degree heat wave is over, (that could be summer) and pretty much rain for the last week, which is good, because, thanks to Howard's tips, I've been making good progress with the wiring. Pretty much everything lights up as it should and I know the under dash components pretty well. Thank goodness for heat shrink tubing.

Hoping to make the 50th anniversary bash for the Antique Auto Mushers in a couple of weeks - about a 100 mile trip to the Alyeska resort.

Best wishes to all those coping with Mother Nature.
Mark

Posted on: 2012/6/28 23:11
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Re: Was there do it yourself maintenance?
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Mark Graber
Howard,
Thanks for bringing back the memories of full service. I love the scene in the movie "Back to the Future", for the look of wonderment on Marty's face as attendants swarm over a car during a fill up. And, of course, Doc Brown's '49 convertible. Great movie for Packard fans....

Posted on: 2012/6/24 13:49
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Re: Needed for 47 Super -356
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Mark Graber
Thanks to all....
Mark

Posted on: 2012/6/24 13:28
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