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Re: 1956 Patrician for sale on eBay -- Again!
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Tim Wile
As of Saturday, 4 May 13, @ 7:00 pm EST, it was up to $7,600 with the reserve unmet. If past experiene is any guide, the bidding will probably stall around $14K to $16K with the reserve remaining unmet.

Posted on: 2013/5/4 18:06
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Re: 1956 Patrician for sale on eBay -- Again!
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I can't argue with that . . . it definitely is a buyer's market. Great time to be looking to pick up a car, but a terrible time to try and sell one.

Unless you do most of the work yourself, you'll never get out of one of these cars what you put into it. When you take on a project to restore one of these gems, you do it for something other than monetary gain. Hopefully, when the car is finished, it will stay in the family for a time, if the kids and grandkids appreciate fine workmanship and machinery from a bygone era.

Posted on: 2013/5/4 14:18
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1956 Patrician for sale on eBay -- Again!
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For those of you who may be interested in such things, that 1956 Packard Patrician located in Wayne, Pennsylvania, is up for sale on eBay once again. This has got to be the fifth (5th) time that I've seen this particular car on eBay since the Spring of 2011 - with no sale yet.

The car looks fairly nice by the photos posted and if my memory serves me correctly, the seller wanted to get at least $18,500.00 for it, but I have absolutely no idea whether that is the reserve on the auction.

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Posted on: 2013/5/4 12:35
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Re: 56 Caribbean for sale in Netherlands
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Does anyone think that the owner in the Netherlands raised it to account for the fact that most of the Netherlands is under sea level and if a dike breaks or is breached, most roads would be under water??

Just my

Posted on: 2013/5/1 14:38
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Re: If you are under sixty, how did you get interested in Packards?
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Although I've just turned 60, I'll add my two cents to this topic. I've been into cars since I caught the bug from my father, who also had a love of them. His prize was a '49 Chrysler New Yorker convertible that he purchased new and in which I was brought home from the hospital. His prior car was a '40 DeSoto that he had bought used shortly before he was drafted into the Army Air Corps.

I'm old enough to recall the mid to late 1950s cars when they were knew and remember waiting in ancitipation to see the new models come out. It was quite a big deal back then and the car dealers would all soap their windows until the debut date. My dad was originally a Chrysler man but turned to Fords in the late 1950s when he started selling them as a part-time job. One of the major benefits in my eyes was that I got to see the new Ford models before they were released to the public - I thought that was soooo cool.

My interest in Packards probably began with the owner of a local shoe store. He always bought new Packards and I distinctly remember his red and white 1958 Packard two-door coupe parked behind the shoe store well into the late 1960s or early 1970s. With the fins and such, it definitely caught my eye. Eventually, he turned to Cadillacs and I never found out what happened to his '58 Packard.

While my dad was a Chrysler, then a Ford, then back to Chrysler man, he always spoke of Packards with awe. He was never in a position to buy a new one himself and he always found decent deals on one- or two-year old Chryslers. As for myself, I always liked the style of the '55-'56 Packards and I have to admit that I prefer the seniors over the Clippers. No offence meant to the Clipper fans, but I just liked the stately elegance of the '55 and '56 seniors.

A few years ago I finally got to the point in my life where I could seriously consider getting a classic car to work on and restore to driving condition. I have a garage in which to shelter it and the time in which to work on it. After looking around, I finally picked up a '55 Patrician that had been the project of someone obviously younger than myself. Much of my time has been spent undoing what a previous owner did and then fixing it correctly.

I then picked up a second Packard, also a '55, but this one was a 400 two-door coupe. That is ostensibly my wife's Packard and a bit closer to being roadworthy than is the Patrician. But the Patrician is catching up fast. While my wife's first love is the '57 Chevrolet Bel Aire convertibles, she has warmed up to the Packards and is looking forward to some nights this summer cruising in the Four Hundred.

My two grandchildren, my 10-year old grandson, and my 6-year old granddaughter, have already been given rides in Opa's Packard and were thrilled as they could be. My grandson thinks that both Packards are cool but he likes the Four Hundred because it has antique tags on it and we can drive it on the road. The lad's quite practical. Hopefully, my grandson will be assisting his Opa with one or both of the cars this coming summer and perhaps he'll catch the bug. As for my granddaugher, with her personality, she's not intersted in the mechanics, just whether she can ride in it. God help me if she ever gets a look at a fully restored '55 or '56 Caribbean convertible! I'll never hear the end of it.

I don't know if any of my ramblings added to the topic, I hope so.

Posted on: 2013/5/1 14:30
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Re: What SINGLE factor MOST contributed to the demise of Packard?
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IMHO, Packard's final slide began post-war when it was determined to become a volume car maker rather than try and return to its prior niche as the premiere luxury car maker. After World War 2, Packard was in fairly decent shape financially. Had Packard tried to return to its roots making and marketing well-made, well-engineered luxury cars, Cadillac would have never left them in the dust.

Unfortunately, Nance's efforts to return some of the lost prestige to the Packard marquee by separating the Clipper and Packard brands was a bit too little too late and eclipsed by the dual mistakes of leasing the Connor Ave. plant from Chrysler and buying Studebaker.

Perhaps the biggest irony is that it was Studebaker, not Packard, the was selected by Curtis-Wright in '56 for saving and Packard was resigned to the dust heap of history.

A shame, perhaps, but that is how the market works.

Posted on: 2013/4/26 16:02
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Re: I promised A/C pix; Here They Are!
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Is that an alternator under the AC compressor?

Posted on: 2013/4/22 20:08
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Re: Wile Family's Second Packard
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Wow! Spring is here and now that my right shoulder is back in service, Packard-time has returned. The 400 was treated to a new battery and it has made a world of difference in starting. The new battery cranks the starter much more vigorously than did the old one, even with a trickle charger attached, and the car starts quite easily now. The difference is like night and day.

I'm still in the process of gutting the doors and the back panels to have them re-done. Apparently, the seats were re-done some time ago and are in decent shape. The seat frames could use some going over, though. The door panels and kick panels are clearly toast but I managed to get a decent set from a donor 400 to use as a model for my re-upholstery person. The window tracks for the glass are also in sorry shape, which isn't surprising for a 55+ year old car. The headliner cleaned up nicely, but the seams are going in a number of places and a replacement is certainly in order.

I took it out for a short spin around the neighbourhood the other day when the temperature was decent and it felt good driving it again. My wife is waiting until I put the windows back in the doors before she takes a ride. I can't blame her.


Posted on: 2013/4/19 12:49
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Re: 1955-56 Packard Corporate Limousine
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How far would the '55-'56 frame have to have been lengthened in order to facilitate a limo, hearse or ambulance body? Packard engineers had already lengthened the torsion-bar frame for the projected '57s by three (3) inches when the wheelbase went from 127" to 130" for the seniors and from 122" to 125" for the Clippers.

I noticed that some fellow in Australia had built himself a working model of the full-sized 1957 Packard chassis, including the torsion-bar suspension. There was an article about him in a prior issue of the Packard Cormorant and the closing paragraphs teased us with the possibility that the building was going to put a '57 400 body on the chassis. That was a few years ago and I haven't heard anything about this project since.

Seriously, some folks on this site with engineering backgrounds could respond to this issue.

Posted on: 2013/3/2 20:24
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Re: Look what I found in the paper today
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It is nice to be able to trace the history of one's car like that. Cars in the 50+ year range can have quite an interesting history. That is even more true for those that were exported from the USA.

I've often wondered how many Packards are still riding the roads in Cuba? There seems to be a wealth of 1950s US cars running down there because of the embargo, I sometimes wonder how many are Packards?

Posted on: 2013/3/2 20:15
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