Glad that technique worked for you.

Wet and VERY careful working it around with screw driver worked!

Here’s my driver side brakes done. Sounds like the shorter shoe in the front is the way to go.

Let me know if anything looks off…

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Thanks, Kevin.

Also, on further inspection, I don’t think the two bolts toward the front are part of the seat frame. There are a series of screws on the outside of the front metal frame piece.

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They definitely can if you have the proper items and circuitry before the bulbs to separate the functions but without separate switches or a multi function single switch like Packard waited until the 23rd series to use -- or maybe blocking diodes in some type arrangement to steer one of the signals when the other is needed -- I don't see how they could in the rear prior to 49. Selenium diodes were all that was available then and those were large, bulky and fairly expensive so I doubt if they would have been used. Again, the cheapest and least disruptive to what was already used or was common to other models without signals was a second bulb in the optional turn signal equipped cars.

I think it's those screws on top of the seat frame.

Getting started on some clean up in the cab….I have the new foot board cut out. I need to add some jute insulation round the edges when it arrives.




I’ll be taking the toe board out soon to get it cleaned up as well.

In the meantime, I’m trying to figure out how the seat frame comes out. I can see two bolts on each side at the front. It looks like those are all that hold the front down.




I’m not seeing how the rear of the seat frame comes out. Here is picture the rear corner.




This is a limousine, so the seat does not have any adjustments.

Howard, I didn’t say that there were individual wires for each taillight. I said simply that the dual element bulbs could be used as turn signals so sorry for the confusion.

Does anyone know if there is a blueprint for a 1951 to 1954 Packard chassis, I would need one with engine height and suspension on it. I have attached a chassis side view I got off the web of another make car so you can see an example of one of the views I would need. I would need a front and side view. Thanks

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Don, From what I can see in the wiring diagrams not quite the case until the 23rd series. I cannot see any evidence of rear factory turn signal wires in 41 diagrams but they do show the ready to use wired fronts. For 42 in the 20th series all models diagram they do show a factory T. S. install on a senior car and it is the same as Clippers thru 47. The 48 22nd series with the exception of the panel indicator is the same. 42-7 had R & L indicators while 48s only had a single indicator bulb.

All prewar thru 48 cars with tail and brake light housings on both sides had the dual contact bulbs wired the same --small and large filaments in parallel each fed from a single switch and power wire. With the basic 3 wire switch for turn signals, because the large filaments in the tail light bulbs were already in parallel and used for the brake lights, the two functions could not be easily separated or shared because as soon as brake were applied and lights were on, the bulbs would not turn off when flashing was needed. An extra bulb was added in the rear to accommodate the turn signal.

Adding an LED bulb would not be an issue for the brake and tail light but like the other models I suspect a 6v electronic flasher would be the easiest option when adding them for turn signals. Downside to changing the flasher is the original mounting method and terminals would need to be changed for the new flasher. It appears LEDLight.com has the bulbs and flasher needed including the 1129 single contact rear bulb.

Here is the basic turn signal, brake and tail light circuits used thru 48. The main difference is in the indicator lights. 42-7 used two indicators and as the Clipper extraction shows those are handled differently than the single bulb in 48. I suspect if turn signals were added to 40 or 41 models they would have had a different tail light housing for the second bulb and probably ran a couple of extra wires or loom under the car much like the reverse light option. No idea how they handled the dash indictor but there might have been a spot in the 41 dash overlay to add one.

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