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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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It turns out NAPA says the pump is not available, either at its warehouse or through the mfg. So, I ordered the Airtex 3450.

Posted on: 2012/8/22 14:14
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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I had to work on some other things the past few days and am getting back to this. I am getting the Bosch pump and will post results. $18.30.

Posted on: 2012/8/21 14:11
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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OK. The Airtex 3450 is looking pretty good about now.

I notice that one of the ports is shown to be at about the 11 O'clock position. My outlet port is there. This is where the steel hose connects.

I can't tell where the second port is on the AT 3450. But my inlet hose is rubber, so if needed I could easily reposition or replace it.

Here is the link to the picture:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATX-3450/?rtype=10

Can you tell from it that the port shown is, in fact, the outlet? I am merely wanting to avoid having to re-do metal hosing.

You can see my existing get-up 2 pages back where I submitted a photo of it.

Thanks for all your patience and assistance. I am just trying to insure an easy job so I can be done with it. I don't know what a re-build costs, but for $60, new is fine with me.

Posted on: 2012/8/15 11:50
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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I used a rather "earthly" attempt previously. I disconnected the hose at the bowl and cranked the car quite a bit, while watching the hose from beneath the hood while I cranked. I could see from the driver's seat while cranking. Nothing.

So, maybe it is a volume issue.

Do you guys agree that the only two things remaining are the hose to the bowl and the pump, itself?

As far as the eccentric, the picture I took is probably the best look I'll ever get of it, so I don't know that comparing to anything will help.

I need a new signature:

"Learning how cars run, one component at a time."

Posted on: 2012/8/15 11:30
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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Quote:

Owen_Dyneto wrote:
A good suggestion to check the eccentric, but a simple volume test of the pump would also tell you of problems in that area.


Yeah, I'm not ruling out the pump. By looks of things, eccentric is fine. I will check the hose from outlet to bowl. If that's okay. I need to check bowl. Not sure of what I'd check for in the bowl exactly, but I'll cross that bridge later.

If bowl okay, then must be pump.

I rule out anything from the bowl to the carb because of Howard's advice that the bowl should be full.

Posted on: 2012/8/15 11:00
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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Eccentric: (Does it look good to you? Seems fine to me.)

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Posted on: 2012/8/15 10:55
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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Quote:

JeffM wrote:

Incidentally, the bowl has a little gas at the bottom. It's not full, but it does have some gas. Maybe a couple of table spoons worth.



As to the above, I am wondering what it's normal level is. I have tried a lot to start the car, and so I wonder if the bowl should be dry. Or is it that the 2 tbsp is a low level that prevents circulation to the carb?

Posted on: 2012/8/15 10:37
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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Thanks.

I just took the pump back off, and did some checking. I am suspecting there is some issue besides the pump.

This time, I connected the gas inlet to the pump and manually cranked it. It pumps gas.

So either the eccentric is not working the lever, or I have some kind of blockage.

Tips of things to check would be appreciated.

Here is the way it went down. I drove on a hot day, and the car got pretty hot. It was all freeway driving until I exited the freeway. On exiting, I made it through the first stop light. At the second stop light, it went out. I noticed coolant overflowed.

Had the car towed. Checked a few hours later and noticed the pin came out of the fuel pump. I removed the pump and put the pin back in. I made some errors trying to put it back properly - namely, failing to put the rocker arm in the slot inside the pump that raises the diaphragm. I corrected that, and re-installed.

No luck. But if I dump a little gas directly in the carburator, the car will start for about a second or 2.

There is no damage whatsoever to the rocker arm of the pump.

I would think my options are limited to:

1. The eccentric.
2. A clog between the fuel pump outlet and the carb bowl.
3. The bowl.

Incidentally, the bowl has a little gas at the bottom. It's not full, but it does have some gas. Maybe a couple of table spoons worth.

#2 will be easy to check. I can take the other end off at the bowl and blow into it.

Not sure of what else I should be looking for.

P.S. When I manually cranked the arm, gas came out as I said. It was not like a hose, but it was enough to clearly show that gas is flowing through the pump. Sometimes, it would spurt a little like a tiny fountain. It did a bit more than just dribble out. But again, it was not a super-heavy flow. By the looks of it, I would think that the flow was sufficient when you have that going on constantly and with a fast cycle.

Posted on: 2012/8/15 10:30
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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Not economics. Bruised knuckles.

I just want to get back running the easiest way I can. If the exact same pump I have was available, that would be my choice. I am not familiar with rebuilding. I wouldn't mind sending what I have to be rebuilt. I just don't know who to send it to for that. (Ficken did well on my wiper motor).

Posted on: 2012/8/15 9:34
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Re: that Effin' Pin!
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I'd really like to find one with the ports in the exact location of mine, especially as to the port to the carb, since I have a metal hose on that one. See pic:

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Posted on: 2012/8/15 7:40
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