Well I think Brian is right in this regard and the PI Guide is flawed. I stand corrected Unless these pictures are not accurate from the production models. The pictures are from the '52 and '54 Salesmen Databooks (respectively)

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Brian,

I came across this illustration which support syour solid band clamp. Still need to see if I can find a good "real" engine picture.

The 48-54 Service Manual was scanned in a pretty low quality, so it's hard to pic out any details. But I am still looking.

This picture is from the 1952 Salesman Databook. Now I have seen differences between the illustrations and the real photos before, but the illustrator did capture the use of both styles of (spring and solid band) clamps being used.

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I am still trying to locate that picture on the water pump inlet clamp, if I cant find it in what I have, then I will just scan the picture from the PI guide.

But I did find this in one of the SCs that shows the spring style clamp being used on the uppper hose:

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Kev,

It isn't a big deal as I found what I was looking for elsewhere, and thanks for answering this query. I had noticed at the time the Staff Forum had been truncated but my attention wasn't drawn to the For Sale Forum then so didn't catch it till now.

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Mike,

Unfortunately can't make a comment in German so English will have to suffice. Thanks for sharing your '53 Clipper and your history and ongoing involvement with the car. The painted grill, at least from my viewpoint, is surprisingly effective and "suits" the car.

There was a convertible (53-54), not sure if it was a Caribbean, that showed up at Perrysburg one year. It had an open drivers seat and a completely removanle landau top. It was a homemade job as far as I could tell, but it was done nicely. Perhaps Packards1 remembers who owns that car??

I definitely like the hood and fender treatment on the 48. What is really striking to me is the white wheels on the 44 with blackwall tires.

Thanks Kip56, it's interesting to note the differences, especially where the hood meets the fenders and the fenders themselves, of the 44 version with the 48 version.

Another view:

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I think some of you are confusing the Monte Carlo with Alvan Macauley Jr.'s "Phantom", built on a 22nd series chassis. It really wasn't a show car but rather his own vehicle for trying different styling ideas and it was much modified over its years with Packard. There was also a pre-war version. But like his "Phamton II" on a reworked 1951 club sedan, these were just playthings for Macauley.

EDIT: One wonders if Macauley really was a force in styling, or just kept on because of his parentage.

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