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Re: Packard 740 mystery
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Another subtle change that was made from 740 to 840 was the front bumper. The 740 is relatively straight at the ends, while the 840 bumper curves more toward the tires. As it did with the swept front fenders, the 745 pioneered the more strongly curved front bumper ends.

Posted on: 4/29 20:32
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Re: Packard 740 mystery
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The crowns of the spares on this car are a couple inches to the rear of the spare crowns on my 740. 840 photos show the spare crowns to be located the same as on this car, so I am guessing 840 fenders will fit a 740 (with bolt hole modifications).

The prior owner omitted the chrome strips. I think he would also have to have used an 840 battery box, and shortened running boards and splash apron.

Posted on: 4/24 12:58
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Packard 740 mystery
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This Packard has the hallmarks that distinguish a 740 from the Eighth Series Big 8s including hubcap style, four-spoke steering wheel, 1930 style engine manifolds, plain hood reveal without the spear tip. Yet it has the sweeping front fenders of the Eighth Series. Will 840/845 front fenders fit a 740? This car doesn't have the chrome strips at the tail of the front fenders that would mark the Eighth Series. Anyone have an idea what is going on with this Packard? More photos here: https://classiccars.com/listings/view/ ... -orange-connecticut-06477

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Posted on: 4/21 20:35
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Re: Recommendations for Tires
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Just spoke with a guy at Lucas Tires about my cancelled order for 7.00 by 19. He said there is one factory in the country (Pennsylvania) that makes all the brands of old style tires. 40,000+ are on backorder and they haven't even started to resume production because of COVID hysteria. A guy at Universal Tires said 700x19 is on their schedule but with no production date, so maybe June or July. Labor and material shortages he said.

Posted on: 3/11 12:26
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Re: 1930 Front Bumper
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Adding info here as I gather it because the Service Parts list does not include the individual components that make up each "bumper assembly."

It would appear the 726/733 front bumper blades are not only narrower from top to bottom across the face but also a bit shorter horizontally than the 740's. The 726/733 are 2" wide across the face vs about 2-1/4" on the 740, and are approx 58" horizontally vs about 60" for the 740.

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Posted on: 3/7 20:57
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Re: 1930 Front Bumper
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840 (left) vs 740 front bumper

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Posted on: 3/7 20:34
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Re: 1930 Front Bumper
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Interesting theory about the bumper shape, Tim. Stands to reason as all the "speared" models - 745, 840 and 845 - have the longer "curved toward the tires" front bumper (as well as sweeping front fenders). The non-speared models with the older style front fenders - 726, 733, 740, 826 and 833 - have the straighter front bumper with less curve toward the tires.

Perhaps these subtle changes are the very first baby steps toward streamlining: an arrow which is symbolic of flying swiftly through the air, "wind swept" front fenders, aerodynamic curvature on the front bumpers.

Posted on: 3/7 19:30
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Re: 1930 Front Bumper
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Another bit of information for the record. Photos of 1931 840 and 845 Packards show both models having front bumper blades that curve more toward the tires - similar to the 745 bumper. (Leaving aside, that is, the '31s that were retro-fitted with an update package which included a 1932 vibration damping bumper). Although the 1931 Big 8 bumper looks nearly identical to the 745, the part number for the 1931 assembly is different than that of the 745.

Back to the question at hand, by far and away most photos of 740s show the straighter blades, but a few show an end curve like the 745, 840 and 845. That caused some confusion until I realized that a 1931 bumper assembly could easily be subbed in for a 740 assembly. The vast majority of 840 and 845 have the bolt-through style guards like the 745, but there are some that use bow tie style guards like on the 740.

To sum up, it seems a proper 740 bumper assembly uses the straighter blades together with a 3-1/2" deep bracket. 745, 840 and 845 assemblies use longer blades that curve more toward the tire and therefore would need a deeper bracket - perhaps 5" deep - to keep the ends sufficiently forward of the tires. I haven't been able to verify the hypothesized 5" bracket depth, but it is clear the longer blades will not work using the 3-1/2" deep 740 bracket as they then almost touch the tires.

Posted on: 3/6 21:14
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Re: 1930 Front Bumper
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Speedster 1930 - sending you a PM

Posted on: 3/6 19:22
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Re: 1930 Front Bumper
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726 and 733 are the same - their bumper blades are 2" wide. The three 740 rear blades I possess are each 2.225" wide. The possibly 745 front blades are approximately 2.265" wide.

Photos below - black club sedan is 740, red phaeton is 745. The bumpers are strikingly different.

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Posted on: 3/6 15:59
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