Thanks David. I have sent you a PM.
Cheers Malcolm

Hi, anyone know what is used as replacement damper (harmonic balancer)when a Packard 120 engine is rebuilt? Mine is seized and no one in NZ can rebuild it.

Hi All. We are rebuilding the 282 motor from my 1936 120B Convertible coupe. Everything in the motor is new thanks to Kanter but we have a problem with the front damper. It was obviously seized on the pulley snout. We have finally removed the damper part but it looks like the rubber that we can see around the edge is disintegrating. We now have no one in New Zealand that rebuilds dampers so wondering if there is anything we can do ourselves. Photos attached. Cheers Mal

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Hi David, thanks for your reply - I have just PM'd you.

I would love to know the real story about the side mounted vs the front mounted water pumnp on 626 cars. I have read two contradictory stories. Beverly Rae Kimes book, which many people call the Packard 'bible', states on page 285: "The pump at the front of the block had to be compressed,[/b] leaving no space for the Alemite fitting to grease the fan and water pump bearing, this solved by providing a hole in the fan hub to receive an Alemite fitting which would have to be removed and a pipe plug screwed in. "Important", warned the Information Book, Do not leave the Alemite fitting in pulley as it tends to throw the assembly out of balance. A small point to dwell upon, perhaps, but a clue to big trouble. The fan belt could not be replaced except by loosening and tilting the radiator forward, rather a chore. Packard was soon aware of it's mistake and changed the pump location mid-model to a left side position on the bottom radiator hose. The following year the engine would be relocated, twinfan belts installed and the redesigned pump put back into it's original position." This paragraph would indicate that the front mounted water pump came first and the side mount water pump was Packard's fix for the rest of the model year. Now consider the statement in the Turquist book which on page 41 which states: "The first standard eights had a side mounted water pump to save space between the fan and the radiator. The pump proved very unsatisfactory and a conventional pump was installed after two months of production." This short statement by Turquist contradicts Kimes, by indicating that the side mounted pump came first, and the front mounted pump was was then fitted to later models in the year. Which is correct? Looking at some engine numbers, it does appear that the earlier engine number seen to have the side mounted water pump with later engine numbers having the front mounted pump. I would love to hear from drivers of both types of pump as to the effectiveness of the cooling provided by each type of watrer pump. Please let us know your experiences. Cheers Mal

Thanks for your reply, David. From my reading of Packard books, I understand that the first of the 6 series std eight had a front mounted water pump which was shorter than the standard water pumps used before, and later on the 7 series. Hence having to adjast gland nut etc through a hole in the pulley. The Kimes bible also says that the radiator had to be tilted forward just to change the fanbelt so the change to the side mounted water pump was done by Packard. The water pump fitted to the side mounted housing seems to be a larger water pump (I mean longer like a 'normal' water pump)with easy access to gland nut and grease nipple. I assume this pump is similar to the 5 series and 7 series. Where your short water pump fits into the front of the block, my engine has a plate with a pulley that will adjust up and down to help in fanbelt tension. Where this fits on my engine is exactly the same size - 4 1/2" I think, as the water pump, so I was thinking about fitting my bigger water pump back onto the front of the engine, as I will have plenty of room as I am moving the engine back in the chassis. I just need to know any details of baffles. David, are you saying that the baffle behind your water pump is cast into the block? I could make up a baffle if I knew it position and size. Any more suggestions? Cheers Mal

I have a 1929, 6 series 320 engine and have a question about the water pump. I have removed and stripped the side mounted water pump and the fan pully assembly and can see that the water pump body will actually fit into the housing on the front of the motor. I know that the 1929 engine had the side mounted water pump as there was not enough room between the front of the engine and the radiator until they changed things in 1930. I will be moving my engine back in the chassis for my speedster project so wonder if I should refit the water pump body into the front of the engine as that would tidy things up and I will have the room, and it does fit. I am assuming that there is a baffle plate or something similar in the water jacket of the 1930 engine behind the where the water pump fits to ensure the correct flow of water through the pump impeller. There is no such baffle in my 1929 water jacket as it was unnecessary without the pump being there.
I am assuming the water jacket castings are the same for 1929 and 1930 on the 320 engine, and hopefully only a baffle plate or something similar is all I need. Can someone with experience of the 1930 water pump and the water jacket area where it sits, let me know their thoughts on my proposed repositioning of my water pump to front of engine.
Cheers Mal

I have removed and stripped the side mounted water pump and the fan pully assembly and can see that the water body will actually fit into the housing on the front of the motor. I know that the 1929 engine had the side mounted water pump as there was not enough room between the front of the engine and the radiator until they changed things in 1930. I will be moving my engine back in the chassis for my speedster project so wonder if I should refit the water pump body into the front of the engine as that would tidy things up and I will have the room. I am assuming that there is a baffle plate or something similar in the water jacket of the 1930 engine behind the where the water pump fits to ensure the flow of water from the inlet radiator hose to the back of the pump impeller. There is no such baffle in my 1929 water jacket as the water just comes into the block and can flow everywhere.
I am assuming the water jacket castings are the same for 1929 and 1930 on the 320 engine, and hopefully only a baffle plate or something similar is all I need. Can someone with experience of the 1930 water pump and the water jacket area where it sits, let me know their thoughts on my proposed repositioning of my water pump to front of engine.
Cheers Mal

Thanks guys, I knew there had to be a way but currently engine a bit dirty and not easy to see an eccentric or offset.
Cheers Mal

I have a 1929 626 320 engine with the side mounted waterpump.
I have looked through the 1929 service manual but cannot find how to adjust the tension on the fan belt so it can be loosened off to the remove. Suggestions Please. Cheers Mal