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Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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Next thay'll claim they won the war....

Posted on: 2013/11/20 19:33
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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Tell them that if stalin wants it he can pick it up in person

Posted on: 2013/11/21 8:21
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you

Bad company corrupts good character!

Farming: the art of losing money while working 100 hours a week to feed people who think you are trying to kill them
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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If the owner does not have a legitimate title it can go back to Russia. A legitimate title will show a point of sale overseas, if they have a motor vehicle registry.
If the car is not registered in the USA - it doesn't have to be registered if it sits in a museum - then it is still Russian property.

There are a few of these cases floating around the USA. Some of the cars haven't seen the light of day in decades. They are owned by crackpot collectors who hold them like a leprechaun's pot of gold. I assume they will take it with them when they croak.

Posted on: 2013/11/21 12:39
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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Naturally. And Russia and Bulgaria are practically the same.

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Posted on: 2013/11/21 14:30
The story of ZIS-110, ZIS-115, ZIL-111 & Chaika GAZ-13 on www.guscha.de
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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Guscha
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Well, .... if they have a motor vehicle registry (within their 9 time zones).

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Posted on: 2013/11/21 14:36
The story of ZIS-110, ZIS-115, ZIL-111 & Chaika GAZ-13 on www.guscha.de
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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It is common knowledge amongst many of our Soviet immigrants that the U.S. never bought Alaska, merely leased it for 99 years and now the lease is up.
Seriously....

Posted on: 2013/11/21 15:22
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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If the owner does not have a legitimate title it can go back to Russia. A legitimate title will shown a point of sale overseas, if they have a motor vehicle registry. If the car is not registered in the USA - it doesn't have to be registered if it sits in a museum - then it is still Russian property. There are a few of these cases floating around the USA. Some of the cars haven't seen the light of day in decades. They are owned by crackpot collectors who hold them like a leprechaun's pot of gold. I assume they will take it with them when they croak.


Would you by chance be a judge?

I don't think any of us know the full story here, but from my perspective this has a lot of holes. I don't see the government of Bulgaria as a paragon of rightness...

Personally, I can't see this car as particularly valuable although some are smitten by the association. What say you as to the market value of this beast?

Posted on: 2013/11/21 15:46
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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Guscha
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I don't know if facts are suitable for a thread brimful of assumptions but be that as it may. According to wikipedia "...License plates in Russia originated 1910s...". Seven instead of 110 years after the first US car registration.

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Posted on: 2013/11/21 18:24
The story of ZIS-110, ZIS-115, ZIL-111 & Chaika GAZ-13 on www.guscha.de
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Re: Bulgaria wants Stalin's Packard back......
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Gerard O'Keefe
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I have heard about the car. Stalin, like Czar Nicholas liked Packard. Just curious as to how a Russian car came to belong to Bulgaria. Was it sold to them? Given to them? What is the story?

Posted on: 2013/11/21 18:40
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Tim Cole
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Alaska was invaded by Russia under Catherine. Russia has no more legitimate a claim to Alaska than France does to Vietnam. Not that I agree with much of the USA's imperialist adventures either, but about the only country with a valid title is Greenland because nobody was there in the first place.

Posted on: 2013/11/22 13:38
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