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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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It's looking good!

I use one of these. They are very bright and run for a few hours on a single charge.

harborfreight.com/845-lumen-led-rechargeable-underhood-work-light-63990.html

They also work great under the hood and under the car. Still works great after 7 years.

Posted on: 2023/5/25 9:23
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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I removed the window trim, the two nuts at the bottom left and right of the back side of the dash, and the screws across the top edge of the dash. I disconnected the radio cables, the accessory switches, overdrive lockout cable, two hex screws holding the steering column, and popped out the dash. Only the Temperature/Oil gauge was left in the car. I removed wires from the back side of the dash, I used Velcro labels on each wire I disconnected. I moved the dash and instruments to the basement and took everything off the dash. My big idea was to use disconnects on the dash itself with matching sets for wires from the wiring harness. Thus I could ensure that all terminals had eyelet wire ends instead of sliders that sometimes work their way out if the terminal screw vibrates a little loose. These could be fastened up tight with new nuts and lock washers; then, when it was time to reinstall, I’d just push the mating disconnects togethers. I’m a concept guy and that was the concept. Easy peasy. Haha. (See previous posts for photos of some of these items.)

I ordered new 160 plastic from LaVine. It took a while, but the result was worth it, and I was fully occupied in the meantime because things got confusing with all these wires. I also read some posts about using electronic relays and decided they could be a good addition for reliability. I didn’t understand anything about them. Before I set out to modify the wiring, I thought I better get a thorough understanding of the original wiring scheme.

The wiring schematic in the 1940 160 180 Owner’s Manual is so tiny, I scanned it, scaled it up to be readable without a magnifying glass and proceeded to redraw it using Adobe Illustrator. I numbered each wire per the manual, and if no number, I used Harnesses Unlimited numbers (They had changed all the original wire numbers, but I stayed with the original numbers unless they were missing. Then I added new numbers for items like my cooling fan which were not included in either source. I changed the location of some of the accessory switches, then prepped them in the car since they would be the last items added to the dash.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 9:25
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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The beauty of having a vector PDF file is that you can scale it to any size without losing any resolution. I’m posting a link to the PDF which could be downloaded and added to Wiring Diagrams, if Big Kev choses. I also recorded the path of each wire by number. So, for over 70 wires, I have a listing that says, for example, “7A – Starter Button to Starter Solenoid”

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 9:29
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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Below is a screen capture of the diagram. The pdf is posted here:mktx.com/packard/PackardOrigWiring3.pdf When the original drawing was done, I used a copy to make a new drawing with the modifications resulting from adding relays and distribution boards.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 9:30
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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With the help and patience of Howard Hanson HH56 and Big Kev, I learned about relays and how to wire them to fused distribution boards. Howard had my back through the whole process answering lots of dumb questions thoroughly for which I am very grateful. I have to give him credit. He never screamed at me in CAPITAL LETTERS!

I used 2 relays and 2 distribution boards. All devices would be wired to the terminals of the distribution boards. The distribution boards are like fuse boxes on a modern car. The relay takes the pressure off the wiring that originally went to the light switch and the ignition switch. The power goes straight to the relays from the ammeter for devices Always Powered, which typically have a fuse and a switch, like the radio, or from the ignition switch, for those that are Only Powered if the Ignition is On. Big Kev’s concise explanation is post #1140. Basically, the whole concept made me dizzy.

Two of the essential parts I needed came from the flackmaster, David Flack.
May I say, Thank God, he saves old stuff? 1940 160 Battery Gauge and a 1940 160 Ignition switch .

The gas gauge needle was caught on a little tab outside the gauge window that prevents it from going too far left (and another on the right side from too far right). That was an easy fix.

My battery meter (I was calling it an ammeter, but it doesn’t give readings like an ammeter, just indications of whether the battery is discharging or being charged), on the other hand, was fried. I gently pried apart the gas/battery gauge casing, removed the nuts holding the battery gauge and installed the working one in my case restored by Bruce Abbott Instruments in Tigard, Oregon, then snapped it back together. Voila! A working gauge.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 9:32
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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I bought a few packs of 10 gauge and 12 gauge connects and 3 packs of LuBanSir 35-Pack Velcro Cable Labels, as you see in most photos.


I also bought Avery Presta T00-13V .5”x1.25” weatherproof film labels for laser printer, 60 labels per sheet to stick on the cable labels. Ok, it’s a bit obsessive, but remember I need a lot of help remember which wire is which.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 9:58
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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These are the relays I used recommended by HH56.
2 TEMCo Industrial 6 V 30/40 Amp Bosch Style S Relay SPDT Automotive
2 SeaChoice Marine 4 Gang Fuse Terminal Block Common Buss Bar Brass Clips Contacts


Also got a FogLite switch, Will Rose, LaVernia TX

After stripping the dash of plastic and shipping it to Travis LaVine so the chrome strips could be removed and attached to the new plastic, I removed all the instruments and accessories. The clock was taken to Ecker’s Clock and Watch Shop to repair the loosey goosey hour hand.

I shipped the radio control to James at Classic Motor Radios in Parkersburg, WV antiquecarradios.com to repair the mechanism for single button station changing. He found a semi-working control box and got it working smoothly. Back in the day when mine worked, it featured five Portland, Oregon stations with labels in a carousel on the left for same. I found a list of Washington DC area AM stations and selected five by content and frequency. There are some frequency limitations imposed by the Stewart Warner radio I have. I made new labels with frequency, call letters, and content type, and loaded them in the carousel. I found a coffee-stained manual on how to install this radio and set the stations, cleaned it up and printed a new copy. (mktx.com/packard/PackardRadioInstall.pdf )The radio box mounted on the firewall works great and didn’t have to come out. I was given the radio from a 1940 110 sedan, not realizing that the dash plastic available was different than the 160. La Vine made a fluted delete piece and cut it in two pieces so the 110 chrome faceplate fit between them.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 10:04
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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The ignition cable came out easily because the end, the coil cover, was modified to be removable. The inside center was pried up to separate it from the cable housing, then replaced adding a threaded hole for a screw to hold it from turning. There was no way I could jam anything more through that hole, so I cut the new ignition cable with a Dremel tool, attached the engine half of my old cable with a new wire and slipped a metal spacer sleave over the connection and clamped it.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 10:29
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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I shipped the speedometer to Pat Mescher at Bill’s Speedometer Shop in Ohio to replace the trip odometer cable and recondition the gears. He cleaned off some paint that prevented the speedometer pointer from changing color the faster you go.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 10:32
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Re: The Duchess Project: 1940 Super 8 Convertible Sedan
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I sanded the entire dash and two panels with 2000 wet/dry, then gave it a coat of clear urethane. Sanded that after a few days and shot it again.

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Posted on: 2023/5/25 10:35
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