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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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Since I've now shown the car in its original color, here's my dream post-war Packard. Sure, a more exciting car could be had, but I am into cost-efficiency too. And I love the color. Wish Packard had offered the Junior roof/Senior body combo, just about all the parts were already tooled.

Up front would remove the PACKARD block letters and swap the textured headlight surround with the Clipper's perfectly flat one, as depicted in the image mod. Runner up would be Clipper front, which would be very tempting.

In the rear, would revert back to the '54 Clipper's simple crest with key hole, and maybe get hold of a "Custom" script from the '55 Clipper and put it down low on the decklid, probably to the right.

Would definitely keep what appears to be a '54 or earlier hood ornament. No worn bar of soap on this job, instead high style and character!

On top of the roof, leather. Inside, Patrician. Underhood, same. Would need a good conditon Patrician to start with, and parts from a worn out '55/56 Four Hundred and Clipper and '54 Patrician.

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Posted on: 11/1 22:48
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Don, here's a special one-off just for you, courtesy East Grand Boulevard. It's a late '55 build that has the first batch of pre-produciton '56 trim pieces. Not a perfect fit but hard to tell from 5 feet and just fine from 50. The reason it has no fuel fill door is because it's... atomic powered! Ah, the future.


Love it! Thank you and sorry not to have replied sooner but I was on the road tonight.

Posted on: 11/2 2:23
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acolds wrote:
all the rendering look good I prefer the ones with more chrome trim the full length stainless looks best to me. On most the top of rear fender appears to be lower to me it should be a little higher probably because of the higher rear height on modified roof. Deep red color looks better than black to me just always have found certain cars look better in certain colors to me.


Al (acolds), I couldn't agree with you more.

Posted on: 11/2 7:14
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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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Paul (Mahoning63), thank you very much for your kindness in taking up the request by developing a limo.

Below are three general criticisms.
1) The entire vehicle body is characterized by horizontal structures. In particular, the horizontal lines of the rear wheel cover look forward to the 1970s. Given this geometry, the sloping lines of the hood and trunk lid seem to me as if the car were sagging at the front and rear.

2) The top lines of the windows are a design disaster. While the front window is higher than the side windows, the rear window is lower than the side windows. Instead of a harmonious whole, the eye is presented with three levels, untalentedly scrambled together. A few years earlier, the manufacturer still mastered these virtues.

3) The large hood emblem seems antiquated to me, rather than noble.

I think it was a powerful idea to include the Caddilac for comparison rather than staying in the Packard bubble. The Soviets (shamelessly) borrowed from both designs.

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Posted on: 11/2 7:40
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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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Great observations! Those are some of the reasons that I chose to get rid of almost all the side trim. I only kept the horizontal piece coming off the front because it is part of the frontal design as it moves rearward to cover the ledge above the front wheels. And because it breaks up what is otherwise a tall body side forward of the rear fender bulge. And I went back to the '54 rear door shape because it gives the sides forward movement, whereas the '55 shape makes the rear fenders look almost as tall as the front body side. But I can see why others like what Teague came up with, because it breaks the body sides up even more, and offers other elements of visual interest.

There's a reason these cars were called Contours back in 1951. The focus was on sculpture, which I gravite towards in car design. Elwood Engle was one of its great champions.

Posted on: 11/2 8:49
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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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One word in my post above was perhaps a little harsh. It's easy to criticize when you're sitting on the sofa at home and don't have to make decisions under high cost pressure in a responsible position. I would like to correct myself and quote from Wikipedia:

"The restyled Packard line for 1955 showed Teague's keen eye for detail and ability to produce significant changes based on limited budgets."

The wrap around windshield was probably a necessary reminiscence of the public taste of those years. You probably can't embed them into the vehicle design without significant body changes - and there simply wasn't enough money for that.

Posted on: 11/2 10:54
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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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Hi

Paul has shown us Packard had a lot more options to field a broader selection of models based on the 127" wb sedan body by mixing and matching existing tooling to create individual models for different price segments.

The raked vestigial fender sculpting from the 1954 models lends visual movement in unity with the rake angle of the '55 front fenders and counterpart to the cathedral taillight angled frame. With the shorter 122" wb roof shell and wrapped backlight, it would have been an ideal '55 Cavalier sport sedan. The shorter roof contrasted to the rear body mass almost looks like an extended deck, though without actually lengthening the rear overhang.

The Patrician Formal Sedan with the closed roof quarters would carry the ultra-luxury banner to bolster Packard's reputation as America's premiere luxury motor car.

All this with tooling already in hand, too bad marketing couldn't perceive these opportunities at the time.

Steve

Posted on: 11/6 14:48
.....epigram time.....
Proud 1953 Clipper Deluxe owner. Thinking about my next Packard, want a Clipper Deluxe Eight, manual shift with overdrive.
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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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Thanks Steve. The Olds 98 and Pontiac Start Chief sedans had both used the their sole greenhouse on a longer wheelbase body to market a higher priced car with minimal investment, and Cadillac's 60 Special was doing it since 1950, so the precedent was there.

Here's an alterate dream car that uses Patrician's front and rear doors, the latter moved forward and modified to be reverse-opening. The more formal look and low pockets could have made it the new flagship. The '57 Eldorado Brougham was a close-coupled car with the same door design.

Original image courtesy Hemmings.com.

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Posted on: 11/6 18:13
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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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To me the problem line on any 51-56 Packard 4 door is the B pillar. A big vertical tree stump interrupting the flow

Posted on: 11/6 18:22
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Re: 1955 Dream Car
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Agreed. Reverse-opening rear doors do narrow them a bit.

Will call this car the Executive Brougham, launched two years before Cadillac's Eldorado Brougham. It would be priced similar to the Caribbean and have a snazzy interior. Packard specs vs Caddy:

Length: 217.4 vs 216.3

Width: 78.0 vs 78.5

Height: 61.7 vs 55.5

Wheelbase: 127 vs 126

Posted on: 11/6 20:29
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