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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Just a note, the 115-c boards are not the same width as a 120-c board. They are both narrower and shorter.

Since the 138c and 120c use the same fenders, they should be the same front width.

Posted on: 3/27 16:07
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Steele’s do not match the metal but I believe that Metro’s does as I seem to recall someone recently mentioned. If so, then that would be a place to check.


You are correct. That’s why I referenced Metro’s mats if I wanted to attempt to splice two sets. It’s quite a bit of $$ to attempt something that may not work. As mentioned, the sell the mats for 120s, but not the 138. There just aren’t enough 138s out there to justify the tooling cost for any of the providers.

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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Looking at my pictures again, it does appear that there is a pretty long section at the rear where the sides are parallel..ie, no curve. So, that makes the option of splicing two sets of 120 mats more feasible. For the money, though, I’m still not sure if it could spliced well enough to minimize the visibility of the seam.

That said, perhaps the seam may still look better than the urethane spray.

I really need to get a test piece sprayed and see how it looks.

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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Here are the pictures from Metro Molded Parts. It really makes it unclear if there is a long enough straight section. The straight section would have to be at least 18 inches.

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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Don,

You really need to do a bias scarf joint with vulcanizing fluid and a thin doubler splice on the underside if you are going to join two sets of rubber mats...this takes some practice on junker rubber before you cut into the precious molded mats.

To keep it simple, as long as you are not going with rubber mats and as long as the metal profile is the same basic "lumps, bumps and humps" as the outer running board original.

I presume you are aware of Plasti-Dip...originally used to dip/recoat pliers/tools handles with a urethane rubber...they have a black spray product:lowes.com/pd/Plasti-Dip-Flat-Black-Flat- ... bH5EAWLpdu-CYrjELw_3in68_DBT1VPLN2g

I used this 25 years ago on chairs that live outdoors all season in a northern climate. I did not have long term cracking or flaking problems. Get a couple cans at your h/w store/lowes, get a junk piece of steel with an embossed pattern in it so you can see how it covers/flows/looks/etc. and spray about 4-5 separate coats (drying between them) and see if you are happy with your mockup results before committing to the full project. You could also put some heat lamps on it to really give it that hard cure and then "step all over it" to try to abrade it as a personal durability test.

Maybe you already thought of this? With this approach, if you are satisfied with the prototype, you can buy all the materials and outsource the project to your bodyshop or DIY.

Dan

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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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To keep it simple, as long as you are not going with rubber mats and as long as the metal profile is the same basic "lumps, bumps and humps" as the outer running board original.

I presume you are aware of Plasti-Dip...originally used to dip/recoat pliers/tools handles with a urethane rubber...they have a black spray product:lowes.com/pd/Plasti-Dip-Flat-Black-Flat- ... bH5EAWLpdu-CYrjELw_3in68_DBT1VPLN2g

I used this 25 years ago on chairs that live outdoors all season in a northern climate. I did not have long term cracking or flaking problems. Get a couple cans at your h/w store/lowes, get a junk piece of steel with an embossed pattern in it so you can see how it covers/flows/looks/etc. and spray about 4-5 separate coats (drying between them) and see if you are happy with your mockup results before committing to the full project. You could also put some heat lamps on it to really give it that hard cure and then "step all over it" to try to abrade it as a personal durability test.

Maybe you already thought of this? With this approach, if you are satisfied with the prototype, you can buy all the materials and outsource the project to your bodyshop or DIY.

Dan


Thanks, Dan. I had not thought about the Plasti-Dip product, but your idea of the mock up is exactly what I was thinking in terms of doing some test pieces with the spray urethane.

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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Along those same lines, they are a couple of companies that make a "smooth" spray bed liner.

Here is one for example:

durabakcompany.com/collections/shop-now/ ... liner-smooth?variant=14491676475427

Posted on: 3/27 16:27
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Along those same lines, they are a couple of companies that make a "smooth" spray bed liner.

Here is one for example:

durabakcompany.com/collections/shop-now/ ... liner-smooth?variant=14491676475427


Thanks, Kevin!

I think the key is going to be finding the right brand. I know there are all different levels of texture. I think I want some texture, but not a lot.

Meanwhile, I have a call in to Metro to talk to them more and see if I can get some detailed dimensions. If the straight section is at least 18 inches, that at least becomes possible. Anything less than that would likely be a train wreck.

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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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Steele never made covers for a 115, so you had to buy the 120 board and cut them down and splice the back together to get the edge right again. They even included instructions on where to cut the them.

Another reason I went with metro.

On another avenue, there are many manufactures of liquid rubber/butyl products out there that could be an option.

Same kind of stuff they use for making waterproof roof membranes.

Posted on: 3/27 16:38
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Re: Don’s 1937 (120) 138CD Deluxe Touring Limo
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The more I think about the idea of splicing two sets, the more I hesitate. I would need to get to a very high confidence level that everything would line up before spending over $1700 per set.

I am seeing some spray urethane successes, including quite a few who have coated their entire cars with Raptor Liner. It looks like it may have a be pretty good in terms of the amount of texture. It has some, but not a ton.

Test pieces will be the key.

Posted on: 3/27 21:04
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