Re: Coolant recommendations - 39 Six
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Regular conventional green 50/50 antifreeze (the old stuff).
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Re: Coolant recommendations - 39 Six
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Hello all, I would advise caution with using the modern anti freeze liquids in a Packard with a soldered radiator. Modern anti freeze compounds ( n.b. 250ml will kill the average adult human so don't drink it if you break down in the desert) are designed for aluminium radiator cores not soldered cores. I have removed all of the Glycol anti freeze compounds from my 38 old vehicles ( including older Rolls-Royce and Bentley vehicles due to this). My 1928 533 started to develop weeping at the core and I am certain that the use of the leeching antifreeze was a major cause. Following is some notes that I put together in 2015.
COOLANTS......IAM or OAM....Modern engines have anti-freeze/anti boil coolants which are basically a poisoned Chalice....they are good for modern cars with aluminium and plastic radiators but bad for old radiators with solder /copper/brass in the system. The problem is that the modern coolants react with the non-ferrous components and cause leaks and corrosion. If you are prepared to pay $16,000 and replace your Phantom 11 radiator then you should not be reading this...but your Business Manager should. As with most things, we the consumer have been duped to believe that modern anti freeze/ antiboil products are good for old cars.....bullshit...read the fine print.... Penrite put out a Coolant additive which I hope is satisfactory but have yet to see any Technical Reports on the product. I would recommend caution as most of the products are for post 1980 vehicles and will eat your 1901 to 1956 radiator over time. How long... well my 5th Series radiator has developed a few leaks over the past 5 years that I have been using modern coolants. Ethelene Glycol anti freeze compounds work ..but you should replace probably every two years. I have also introduced all of my vehicles to Water Wetter as an anti corrosion and anti boil agent. It modifies the surfactant effect of the water molecule and allows greater heat transfer from water. The Engine runs much cooler when it can get rid of heat. . Peter Toet, Packard Automobile Club of Australia - Technical Officer.
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Re: Coolant recommendations - 39 Six
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I'm back to using water with a rust inhibitor in my 32. I'm in California and freezing is not an issue here. I tried Evans waterless coolant at $50 bucks a gallon.
I liked the idea of a coolant that was non corrosive to old cast iron but that stuff is so slippery it found every microscopic pin hole even though I put a block sealer in the engine when I rebuilt it. I would come in the garage the next day and find a puddle here and there, got most of them handled but there was one in the back of the motor I never did find the source of and I took so many turns on the water pump packing nut I just did not feel comfortable with it and it still leaked. I gave up and am back to where I started. That's my 2 cents and my experience. J.
Posted on: Today 14:10
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The green-colored ethylene glycol based antifreeze seems to be the best coolant for old cars. I've had no trouble using it in a variety of old cars and tractors over many decades. For late model vehicles, follow manufacturer recommendations. From what I've seen, draining old systems for extended dry storage seems to encourage corrosion and water pump seal problems.
Posted on: Today 14:18
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Re: Coolant recommendations - 39 Six
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As far as I know, Evans is not recommended for early cooling systems.
Posted on: Today 14:19
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