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You could always hire a machinist and put on Brembo or Wildwood 6 pot discs in front and 4 pot discs at the rear
Posted on: 2008/1/5 23:58
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Also for the fronts: 1971+ Ford 1/2-ton pickup had optional disk brakes with a king pin design. This is what Paul used for his front conversion. About the same work as the other conversions including mine, except it does require machinist work and you have to figure out the steering. Paul proved it will work. See for some details:1956packardpanther.com/PaulDiscBrakes.html
You still have to replace the dreaded BTV though. Craig
Posted on: 2008/1/6 3:15
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BTV is Bendix Treadle Vac, the worst brake system ever designed.
I and several others have come up with replacements for the BTV, all of which are good ideas. I personally take a torch to every BTV I get my hands on and melt them until they're unusable, something I've learned from Craig. As for disc conversions on Packards, there's Paul's front disc conversion, which is probably the most stable and secure version, and the bolt on conversion, which I personally don't care for. I just don't think they're as stable as using a spindle that was made for discs, and has the caliper mount built into the spindle. Again, my personal feelings on the matter. I would just prefer to adapt a later spindle to the Packard, and from what I've seen, it looks like F150 and E150 are the only options around. As for the rear's, when I worked for a Ford dealership, I got out the tape measure on several occasions and discovered that a '94 and up Mustang rear end itself is a perfect fit for the '56s, and I would assume for all Packards back to at least '51. These were available with disc brakes, limited slip differentials, and TONS of aftermarket support for anything you'd need for it. Just make sure if you're looking for one, it's an 8.8", NOT the smaller 7.5", which is too small for a Packard.
Posted on: 2008/1/6 19:49
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Gee, anybody else have that much trouble with the TreadleVac? Not me.
Posted on: 2008/1/6 21:13
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I had no trouble out of mine. But i am concerned about the compensator valve issue as we discussed a few months ago. Parts availability seems to be an issue anyway also as we discussed.
Posted on: 2008/1/6 22:54
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Gee, anybody else have that much trouble with the TreadleVac? Not me. Those of us who drive our cars on a daily basis do not take chances with our stopping ability. After Craig's 3 failures of the BTV, I refuse to take a chance on destroying my car or someone else's. As for the disc brake adapters on the front, I have a guy who's interested in making them, if I can supply the spindles and steering arm. What I need to know is if they're all the same, Junior to Senior, and what years. I have a pair of '56 Senior spindles to donate to the cause. It'll be the bolt on kind, which I don't really care for, but may the only viable alternative that we have at this time.
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I think Craig had to switch to the 4.5" bolt pattern (junior) rims do to which rotors works on those spindles.
I guess we need to compare the Spindle and Steering arm part numbers if there are any differences between 51-56.
Posted on: 2008/1/6 23:07
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According to my 55-56 Parts Cataloug There are SIX different spindles for 55 thru 56.
55 Jr, 55 and 56 Sr, and 56 Jr. In each of those three there is one for manual steering and one for Power steering.. I don't quite understand why there would be a difference between power and manual.
Posted on: 2008/1/6 23:28
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Are there actually six different part numbers? Sometimes they have multiple listings, but the part number is exactly the same.
Posted on: 2008/1/6 23:30
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