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1940, 110 dual master cylinder.
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John Miller
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I would like to replace the single master cylinder on our 1940 with a dual master cylinder now that all the other mechanics are done. I have searched the modification forums but cannot locate one addressing this issue. This car is to be a driver so Radial tires and a dual master cylinder are next on the list.
Please no comments like the current Bendix discussion just a source for a direct replacement and instructions to accomplish. I do not want to bother anyone or infringe on your money spent or time researching/developing, just a lead even if I totally missed a site in the modification section.
Your information is appreciated.
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Posted on: 2010/11/21 12:57
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Re: 1940, 110 dual master cylinder.
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To my knowledge, you won't find a direct bolt on kit, you'll have to make one. I would imagine that the '40 would be similar enough to my '37 and '48 cars that I could walk you through making one yourself.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 13:24
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If Eric has done it, or can help then probably doable. I think the biggest problem is making the mount.

Other than the single repro masters Kanter makes, no drop ins I'm aware of because Packard used a cylinder with the bolts located well below the reservoir. I believe on some cars they also used one of those locations or the boss in the middle to support one end of the clutch/brake shaft. Don't know if the 40 was one that did.

Anything I have found either has the bolts right below the reservoir ie too high for the linkage to line up, or with bolt ears on the piston end.

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Posted on: 2010/11/21 14:00
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Re: 1940, 110 dual master cylinder.
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The best way to put a modern dual line master cylinder on a frame mounted Packard is to do it like this, that way all your parts can be sourced locally.

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Posted on: 2010/11/21 14:21
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A picture is worth a thousand words.
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John

Posted on: 2010/11/21 14:57
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thank You
John

Posted on: 2010/11/21 14:58
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Re: 1940, 110 dual master cylinder.
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Glad to help. I'm not entirely sure where that picture came from, I found it on the 'net years ago and thought it was worth keeping.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 19:07
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It's a bit difficult to see but I welded up an "L"shaped bracket and attached it to the stock mounting bracket. Someone could easily return my car to the pure stock setup (although I don't why they would want to)

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Posted on: 2010/11/21 19:27
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That's the best kind of modifications IMHO, the reversible kind.

Posted on: 2010/11/21 19:38
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Re: 1940, 110 dual master cylinder.
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I can do that, fabricate a bracket as illustrated.
Question, do you happen to have a part #/source for the master cylinder you used?
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John

Posted on: 2010/11/21 20:06
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