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Re: Pre War Service Index Groupings
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Brian, You are correct. I was wondering if I was seeing the characters in the Key correctly, I thought I was but I was not.

Suggestion 1: Maybe you do not need to make a difference in the 1935-37 juniors. The 1937 Six (115C) was a one year only model, but it shared much with its 120 predecessor. I think you could make the 1935-37 juniors one category. I know this would be mixing up the 8- and 6-cylinder lines, but in this case I think it would work.

Suggestion 2: To carry this line of thinking a little further, you could do this for the 1938-42 years too (excluding the junior Clippers). So now you end up with just two categories for the juniors from 1935 through 1942 (excluding Clippers):
1935-37 Juniors (120s & 115Cs) and 1938-42 Juniors (120s & 110s).

Suggestion 3: If you go this far you could also have one category for the 1941 through 1942 junior Clippers: 1941-42 Clipper juniors (eight and six).

These last two suggestions may be compressing too much into one category, but I think the one category for the 1935-37 juniors works.

What do you think?

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Posted on: 2011/10/27 21:26
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Re: Pre War Service Index Groupings
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JW -

Thanks for your additional input.

WRT "Suggestion 1", if you take a second look at the graphic, namely the yellow cells, you'll see that I have every intention of covering the 115C chassis together with those of the 120-B-C - and in a single installment. Seems to me that PMCC considered those models to be in a class all their own. Yet, after a year with no "true" Eights, the Junior line was mainstreamed into the 16th Series for 1938 - as 1600 and 1601. I can tell you, now, that a mock-up for 1935-37 Juniors has about 800 entries, though half of them are rather non-specific in application. So, that grouping should be a done deal.

Although I had considered a single installment for 1935-41 with 6, 8 and Su8, just as the parts book, plus the 1942 non-Clipper (chassis 2004-5-7-8-23-55). Yet, with just over 600 entries, when I was only through newsletters dating back to only 1940, that one was already too large.

However, "Suggestion 2" takes us in the other direction - back to three installments for the period, including your 1935-37 Junior and 1938-42 Juniors (exc Clipper), plus one for the 1937-39 Twelve and 1937-38 Super Eight. The problem, now, is one of so many no-specific topics that apply to all models of one or more years/Series and would be duplicated between too many installments.

WRT "Suggestion 3", based on applications by chassis, the lone 8-cylinder model from 1941 and the the 6 & 8 from 1942 seem to be distinctive enough from earlier models, yet close enough to 21st Series of 1946-47 that I covered them in a single installment for all Clipper, which is already online - with over 650 topics. Except for some fine-tuning, I'm done with that one.

So, I'm still thinking of these installments:

? 1937-42 (15th-20th) - that is, all models, except Clippers

? 1935-37 Juniors (120->115C) - that is, ex-Series

? 193?-36 (?th-14th) - all models, except 120

Barring unforeseen emergencies, I should be able to deliver a "two-fer" within a few weeks. If the 1937-42 installment proves to be a mistake, I'll just have to back-pedal (with a little help from BigKev).

Without sufficient material to examine and support the online index, it's hard to define that last group, and we might end up with only a couple more instalmments beyond that - one for 1st-through ?th Series and another for Pre-Series.

Posted on: 2011/10/27 22:56
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