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Here's a thought for a 1940-2 160/180 sport sedan on the 138" wheelbase. Not as sporty as the LeBaron Sport Brougham but probably something the factory could have produced.

Many thanks to the owner of the '42 One Sixty touring sedan.

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need a vent included in the rear - the rear window won't go down!

On this particular car? Is it yours???

By adding skirts and removing those ugly sidemounts, you can build a car that looks custom, yet authentic. This was done on our 1941 Formal sedan. When it was finished, you wouldn't believe the number of knowledgeable Packard enthusiasts who asked who the custom body builder was.

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what I meant was on the what-if photoshop job, the rear window would hit the door's fender cut out if lowered. There are those pesky details to work out on real cars

I believe the window would already be fully down before it hit the fender wraparound.

In some respects, especially the rear door treatment, your sport sedan concept reminds me of Dr. Pressman's 1940 one-off by Derham, though that car is far more formal, most would say severely so. As delivered, even the grille shell and shutters were painted black.

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Windows fully rolling down, or pretty close to full down, was my assumption too. The rear door lower is carried over from the touring sedan so if it was good enough for the factory, it's probably good enough here.

West - I understand what you are suggesting and fully agree. The formal sedan's leather top also lends a custom look. What I was after was a different proportion, more close coupled. The roof is about 13 inches shorter than the 138" touring sedan and formal sedan, quite a difference. The devil is in the details as bkazmer said. This car would need tear-up from the b-pillar aft except for the rear door lowers. If the LeBaron Sport Brougham or it's spiritual descendant, the Clipper, didn't exist I would say this modification might be a worthwhile endeavor for those wanting a Packard sport sedan - except for the fact that one would be mucking up an original piece of rolling history. Maybe if someone were to find a 138" touring car in need of major restoration and body work, this might be a worthwhile effort.

Paul West

Owen - that car is curious indeed. With the one-piece windshield, fabric top and formal c-pillar it almost looks like elements of the roof were lifted from an earlier 120 Club Sedan.

Once the 1938 Cadillac Sixty Special came out, the sport sedan cat was out of the bag so it's not surprising that some folks wanted a Packard version of same. Since the company chose a more traditional touring sedan style for the 1940 138" body, the only option was a custom. You could just see the progression as the months wore on. The Darrin custom sedans (lowered and standard height) were a start, then these other one-offs, then LeBaron and the factory got their heads together and figured out a way to do an arguably better looking version while using even more stock stampings. Then the Clipper came out and largely rendered the previous stuff obsolete.

Hmm, that whole body midsection looks like it might have been lifted from the 1937 138-CD, with rear roof from the Club Sedan. Maybe somebody had that car and wanted it grafted onto the more modern platform/engine.

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