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I have ordered the oil pump and related material from Jack, Fred's advice not withstanding. The provenance of my oil pump is uncertain and so many posts here and elsewhere start and end with the oil pump that it seemed logical to start there. As noted earlier, if I won the lottery, more would/could be done. Till then.......
A word of thanks for everyone who supplied experience, who spent time on this, who stayed with the thread and who helped. Most mechanical stuff is outside my comfort zone, so I rely on you all for guidance.
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PLEASE PLEASE save the oil pump that is removed from the car. Lets take it apart and analyze it. It's ez to take apart. U gotta digital camera???
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This might well be the best post I've read on here in months. Very well said, Craig! Perhaps if you are able to make it, and would care to, this topic could be a tech talk in Laughlin latter this year. Jim
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Noisy lifters that are noisy DUE TO BAD LIFTERS is usualy NOT intemittent. The intermittent noisy lifters are due to a worn oil pump, especialy Packard V8's. The Packard V8 oil pump is rather notorious for premature wear.
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Yes, installing new lifters on a badly worn or compromised cam can be trouble, but we sell tens of thousands of lifters only for all makes and models and once ina while the customer ahs problems they lett us know about. MOst often complaint "soft lifter". Weh we check for hardeness never have found a problem. Either lifter not rotating in the bore, failure to prelube cam or bad lobe to begin with.
Yes, if you replace both cam and lifters tjhere is less a cjhnac eof aproblem, but doing lifters is not a recipe for disaster. Back in the 60's when we didnlt know about the weaknesses of the V8 OP I replaced 5 or 6 sets of lifters, never a cam, never a problem.
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Yes, if you replace both cam and lifters tjhere is less a cjhnac eof aproblem, but doing lifters is not a recipe for disaster. Back in the 60's when we didnlt know about the weaknesses of the V8 OP I replaced 5 or 6 sets of lifters, never a cam, never a problem. Yes, that used to be true in the 60s or even in the 80s. But because of the change in oil formulation -- and there was a thread on this recently -- the frequency of wiping a cam lobe on a new flat tappet cam/lifter install is increasing. I know many Pontiac engines being built today (the whole community, not just me) with the more expensive hydraulic roller lifters if for no other reason than to eliminate the probability of wiping a cam lobe. These are on street engines, not race. Once bitten, twice shy. Unfortunately, I don't know of any manufacturers making roller lifter cams for Packard V-8s, so avoiding new flat tappet lifter/old lobe problems is more important than ever. Craig
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PLEASE PLEASE save the oil pump that is removed from the car. Lets take it apart and analyze it. It's ez to take apart. U gotta digital camera???
I could probably figure out how to do this. What are we looking for?
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I could probably figure out how to do this. What are we looking for? This was Keith's question, but I personally have no idea what he's looking for. I've said this before, maybe Keith missed his calling and should be a Medical Examiner instead of whatever he's doing. As far as I'm concerned, if it is a "bad/worn out part" and not really repairable or improvable, then you throw it in the trash and get a "new, better part", if possible -- which it is in the case of the V-8 oil pump. Maybe it's just me. Craig
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I could probably figure out how to do this. What are we looking for? patgreen, you should have your Olds pump and kit by now. Just send the old Packard pump to me and I've got the micrometers and have seen many, rebuilt many, so I can compare it to others and report back. jack vines
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