Re: Rutherford Family Packard Model
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It may be disappointing for you to hear that we rarely talk about vehicles from this period. A few days ago I put some order into the more than 12,000 photos in the photo archive and had to look at them very closely for this purpose. I agree that the vehicle could not have been purchased in 1906. The characteristic shape of the dirt deflectors at the tips of the front fenders only appeared around 1910. Details of the windshield (long windshield support arms, storm-tilt windshield) were also not in use at that time. In particular, however, the headlights, which are covered but give the impression that they were electrically operated, appeared around 1912. The previously used acetylene gas lamps had a different shape and size. In order to be able to better classify what has been said here, I would like to emphasize again that I am not an expert on vehicles from these early years.
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Re: Rutherford Family Packard Model
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I don't know if the reference is significant, but the photo is also used in Wikipedia (and classified there circa 1912).
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Hi Guscha,
Thanks for the information. I have been pouring through the photographs and I think the car looks most like a 1912 Packard Model 30 Touring UE. That model was only sold in 1912 and was the last of the Packard Four models sold. And yes, I noticed the difference in the fenders, the tilt storm windshield, and headlights. The headlights are covered so it is hard to tell if they are indeed electric or not, but I speculate they are based on the other characteristics. In relation to the information on Wikipedia, I am personally skeptical of the 1912 dating of the photograph. The photo contains Cecil Rutherford (in the driver's seat), the Martin family including Helen (Cecil's future wife, back row on far right), and Hazel Rutherford (back row on left). Cecil did not start courting Helen until late 1912, whereas this photograph is clearly taken during the summer. It is probable that the photograph was taken a year or two later. Thank you for the assistance you have provided.
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... The headlights are covered so it is hard to tell if they are indeed electric or not ... The cable is hanging out. Even on vehicles built in the 1920s, the cable was still hanging out. The headlight is also not round like an acetylene gas lamp, but adopts the tombstone design of the radiator.
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