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Godess of speed installtion on 37 115c?
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I have purchased a Goddess of speed .I would like to install it on my 1937 115c that has standard ornament . the base on the Goddess is longer that the standard ornament does it have to adapted or is there a different base needed ? I understand that the Goddess of speed was installed on 8 cyl. and standard bale type was on 6 cyl. I have seen several Goddess on 115c and If anyone can make sense of my babble please help me with this I would most thankful for any help I can get

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Posted on: 2017/12/9 0:32
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Re: Godess of speed installtion on 37 115c?
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Beautiful Packard! The mascot base should be the same length no matter which design so perhaps the one you just got is from a different year. For example, 1938 and 1939 bases I believe were longer than 1937 and 1940 was even longer than those two. It may not be a matter if getting a different base as the ornament itself might be different between the years but I'm not sure about that. If you find another, be sure before buying that it's the same length as your original.

Although I've never owned a Packad older than 1939 so am not an expert by any means, I believe The Goddess of Speed was an optional accessory on any model. My 1940 came with the Goddess but I replaced it with a NOS bail as it was an everyday driver so the bail was less tempting to vandals!

Posted on: 2017/12/9 3:43
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Thank You for the info . I guess the search continues If you know of anyone that might have the base piece please that me know .
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Happy Packarding
AL Case

Posted on: 2017/12/9 12:25
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Re: Godess of speed installtion on 37 115c?
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Hello , Again
I have one more do you have a 37 6 ? I have pieced together a perfect heater but I need some detailed pictures of hoses and valve firewall out .
Thank You Once More
Al Case

Posted on: 2017/12/9 12:29
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Re: Godess of speed installtion on 37 115c?
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Appears there were a couple of ways a heater could be done depending on whether a return water port was provided by the factory. I do believe the outlet on the head was the same on all and that is where the shutoff valve goes if one is used. That shutoff valve seems to have been an optional item even through later years.

Here are a couple of articles showing a piece of metal tubing running the length of the engine. The articles are 36 and 37 and believe the photo is of a 39 senior engine. Another couple of photos from the archive are of cars identified as 37s just using ordinary radiator hose.

Maybe Flackmaster or one of the 37 owners can provide more photos and a definitive answer as to whether the metal tube was used on all. I believe the metal tube is NA and remember another poster a couple of years ago finally deciding to make his own tubing and supports. Don't remember which year his was.

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Posted on: 2017/12/9 15:03
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There should be knockout locations in the firewall at hose and mounting bolt locations for the factory heater as shown in the photos provided by HH56.
Use a careful check to verify.

Posted on: 2017/12/9 17:35
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Thank you for the great information on the heater install . That is what I needed . I think I prefer the metal tube Idea do you think 5/8 copper will work well?

Posted on: 2017/12/10 0:16
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Packard used mostly steel tubing but I don't know if they used steel or copper on that one. Perhaps someone with an original can say -- and also the color of the original tube.

Copper is probably the most expensive option and if you wanted to duplicate the factory item per the illustration you would need to get coiled copper tubing that could be bent rather than the straight lengths sold for plumbing use at the home centers. That is hard copper tubing and does not bend. If you just want a straight length with hoses on each end then the hard copper might work well. I don't know if you can buy the coiled bendable tubing in that size by the foot or if it sells only by the coil at retail.

McMaster-Carr has straight bendable 3' lengths of 5/8 OD steel and stainless steel tubing rated for water flow but only 10' coils of the bendable copper.

One possible option MIGHT be 1/2" electrical conduit. That is easily and inexpensively found and generally of a bendable steel composition. OD is just over 5/8. You could paint the outside black or even use a clear or gray colored enamel if you wanted a more steel tubing like look. The concern with conduit would be internal corrosion but if you are running coolant with a corrosion inhibitor it might not be a big issue. Someone more versed in that aspect would have to provide a definitive answer.

It is hard to see on the factory photo if there are any grommets in the supports. I think I would use a rubber grommet to insulate the tubing from the steel uprights no matter which tubing was used. The support detail might be another thing the owner of an original could verify or photograph.

Posted on: 2017/12/10 11:41
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