Not knocking the project, but just curious what benefits or what one is expecting or could derive from the info after the work. Aside from curiosity of seeing if buildings still there or what business the address is currently, is there anything else that could be found out?

I'm really out of date on this, are you saying that Chicago Rawhide (C/R) is no longer is business?

Brian, I agree and also see it as a HUGE job, probably so huge it's chances of getting done are pretty slim. Since dealers came and went, to make it useful you'd want to give dates for when a dealership was in business - that means you'd want lists from every year, or at worst every few years, and then check each one for each individual dealership to try to establish time frames.

I repeat my offer, if anyone wants information from my 1939 list, all they need to do is to post or PM me. Best I'm prepared to do at this point in time.

O_D's sample page reminds me of my days as a DM for Chrysler back in the 1980s. The Zone office provided us with printed lists of contact info on the dealers for which they/we were "responsible" - derived as a subset from a greater corporate computerized database. Years later, I had the privilege of looking over a photocopies of a similar dealer lists from a couple of PMCC Zone offices, but I don't have access to those - let alone originals.

Let me tell you, from my experience with the Service Index and Bookshelf features, if someone would be willing to take the time and convert the data from such a dealer list into a spreadsheet matrix, BigKev's "kung-fu" programming could produce a searchable database in relatively short order.

I'm cofindent that BigKev could assimilate the distinctiveness of the existing entries from the user-driven form of the Packard Dealers feature into a greater collective, yet allow for future additions of detail from the members.

THEN, if other lists come to light, we could similarly merge those.

Yet, before anyone jumps in with data entry, we should first discuss exactly what fields to include in the spreadsheet and the target database - beyond the obvious dealer name and address info.

This could be a very interesting and fruitful upgrade to the existing feature.

Any takers?

I feel compelled to add that REPRODUCTION 6v replacement parts specifications MIGHT not meet OEM, NOS nor NORS 6v replacement parts. It's not like that problem has never surfaced before among repops in general.

At some point, 6v to 12v conversion becomes an individual judgement call based on a wide variety of the car owners expectation, operating environment and other cicumstances.

Bottom line, I doubt that we can change the world.

" My 6-volt car starts at least as fast, often faster than the 12 volt one."

I think variations of this phrase are often used (especialy by me) BY many 6v fanciers. BUT it is misunderstood by many laymen not familiar with what we mean.

"I think some folks relate "engine cranking speed" to starting speed - and of course it's not how fast it cranks, it's how ..."

THAT phrase explains it better. Manyy people hear a 6v starter cranking a bit slower than a usual 12v system and FALSELY relates it to inherent weakness of 6v.

My guess is that as 12v is phased out over the next decade or two then, as HH56 points out, everyone will be converting to the 24, 36 etc.

I contend that THE REAL PROBLEM is AVAILABILITY of 6v components. Decades from now an availability problem of 12v components will arise as well.

Owen-I agree, the also don't wear a groove into the spindle like a lip seal can, but I don't know where to find them.
Mike

My own experience is that rawhide seals, oiled well before installation, last at least as long, perhaps longer than the alternatives as long as they've had reasonable storage.

Has anyone had any experienece with the modern lip seal type of front wheel seals in place of the old rawhide originals? I'm replacing the National seals part # 5975 with SKF # 17145. The number crossed directly over but its a rubber lip seal with an ID thats .025 less than the spindle and .100 thicker than the old one. The lip has enough stretch to fit, just looking for opinions or tips-
Thanks

thanks for the help everybody.
i have removed the photo's to free up band width.

Dave