Tuesday 7th September 2010

Not at the workshop today, although I did drop in to look for my mobile phone which I lost misplaced yesterday. Found it wedged between the base of the front seat back and the seat squab of Old Blue. Pheeew! Then it was off to rendezvous at McDonald's at Thornleigh for the OASIS run to Mooney Mooney today. Wade and Gina were going in Big Red while I was giving the '41 a hit out. Unfortunately I couldn't stay for lunch, because of babysitting commitments, but more than 40 people did so at the Mooney Mooney Workers Club. However the run up the Pacific Highway heading north and on the Freeway on the southerly return trip did give a perfect opportunity to test the OD. And the kick down worked well once I got the hang of it. Initially I was just stabbing the pedal to the floor momentarily but it didn't kick down. But flooring the pedal and holding it there for a second or two did the trick and kick down was obtained. In this age of instant gratification we come to expect things to happen now! We need to be reminded from time to time that it wasn't always so. Won't see Wade until Thursday because tomorrow, Wade and Gina are heading south to pick up some more finished body parts for the '34.

Link to the pic's taken today. As you will see I was quite taken with the Austin 12 with the divider window. Didn't know Limo's came in such small packages. OASIS run to Mooney Mooney

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  1941 Packard 120 Club Coupe.JPG (94.38 KB)


  1927 Austin 12 with divider window.JPG (107.43 KB)

to John Miller, for including his '40 One-Ten 4-Door Touring Sedan in the Packard Owner's Registry.

Monday 6th September 2010

Found PeterL just leaving, when I arrived at the workshop late this morning. May even catch up with him again tomorrow on the Morris Minor Picnic Club run for lunch at the Mooney Mooney Workers Club on the bank of the Hawkesbury River north of Sydney. Wade and Gina are going in Big Red while I'll make the trip in the '41. Should prove useful in testing out the OD on an extended run. And the reason why Peter could well be there is that it's relatively close to where he lives on the Central Coast. If Peter makes it there'll be 3 Packards present, including his '38 Eight Touring Sedan.

I drove down in my daily driver because John was doing some work on it for me today, including overhauling the rear brakes. Because of this I started musical Packards, borrowing Old Blue to then go home and pick up the '41 to bring it down to the workshop. Once the '41 was backed into the workshop the OD Kick Down switch was checked by Wade with his multimeter and found to be working perfectly in isolation. From there the OD Relay was also checked. This was done in concert with the Aero-Drive Circuit Diagram in the workshop manual and the Aero-Drive Wiring listing which accompanied the new harness from Vintage Wiring Harness. And here a problem was found, Terminal 2 on the relay is shown in the Circuit Diagram and in the Wiring listing as going to the Distributor and Coil respectively. This provides the momentary ignition cut out for the OD to kick down or out. But...... on Terminal 2, the green wire marked #55 didn't lead to either the coil or the distributor. It went into the harness and was one of three wires which were connected to the starter motor with a soldered terminal lug. Which meant there was 6V going to Terminal 2. I say was because now the green wire, marked #55, is now disconnected and taped off. In it's place Wade made up a new wire to take it's rightful place from Terminal 2 on the OD relay to the coil. And it works! A test run soon after now gives kick-down from OD! I'll be contacting Paul at Vintage Wiring Harness to let him know of this glitch. And why wasn't it picked up sooner than this? One, in connecting up the new harness there were no loose wires because #55 was connected to the starter. And two, because of the mechanical problems with the OD it wasn't evident there was also an electrical problem. This only came to light after the electrical test of the Kick Down switch. Don't ask me any technical questions about this as I'm not at all electrically literate, In fact I'm amazed I remembered this much to be able to pass it on!

And just as we arrived back from the '41's Kick Down road test our young friend Mat(packard34) also arrived. It's a mere 260 kilometres from Hill End, where Mat lives, to the workshop but he'd dropped in to see Wade concerning his '34's horn button and the levers which are presently moving with and not individually from the column. See this post. Mat brought the horn button and internal column shafts with levers with him. Wade, with the help of some of his spare parts, some of which Mat was very fortunate to walk away with because his parts were missing, was able to show Mat how it all went together and the sequence to do so. Reference was also made to Wade's rolling '34 chassis, aka "The Fossill", where all the parts could be inspected in situ, in a comfortable and civilised manner. No need for under car gymnastics or unnatural contortions to see the parts in question. While Wade was giving his '34 steering column lever connectability tutorial I was installing a fire extinguisher in the '41. The extinguisher came courtesy of my daughter as my Fathers Day gift yesterday. The extinguisher installation was done between taking some pic's for Mat of various parts at the base of the steering column. That done, back home in the '41, then transferred over to Old Blue for the trip back to the workshop where I exchanged it for my daily driver. As I said musical Packards, ride in Big Red, drive Old Blue, drive the '41, test drive the '41, drive the '41 and finally drive Old Blue.

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  Daily driver gets worked on by John.JPG (71.86 KB)


  '41's OD Relay - Terminal 2 is middle left with green wire attached.JPG (51.45 KB)


  Aero-Drive Wiring listing from Vintage Wiring Harness.JPG (59.09 KB)


  AerDRive Circuit Diagran from workshop manual.JPG (64.50 KB)


  '41 Comes in.JPG (62.66 KB)


  '41 In.JPG (61.69 KB)


  '41 Goes out.JPG (53.94 KB)


  Old Blue comes in.JPG (63.48 KB)


  OLd Blue In.JPG (60.88 KB)


  Mat and steering column and horn button.JPG (65.82 KB)


  Tutorial.JPG (39.01 KB)


  Lucky boy Mat - He didn't have this bolt. But he does now!.JPG (52.34 KB)


  Part of Mat's problem - Wade showed him how this fitted together and on the base of the steering column shafts.JPG (60.07 KB)


  And there it is in situ.JPG (48.11 KB)


  Carpark shot.JPG (67.27 KB)

and to Paul Weeks, for including his '50 Super Deluxe Eight Touring Sedan in the Packard Owner's Registry.

Quote:I refer to what HH56 had to say on this aspect.Quote:The 288 and 327 family of engines are the "common" type referred to by HH56 while the 356 cited is much rarer. You'll need to determine which engine is being used in the Packard you're interested in. The data plate on the firewall/cowl showing the model information and the engine number, stamped in block, will help determine that.

Quote:G'day Palanirides,
to PackardInfo. No expert on these matters but here's my on your engine swap proposal. First, the Ford I6 is 12Volt while the Packard is 6Volt, so there would also be issues involving the electrical system. Second is mating the Ford I6 to the Packard driveline. You'd either have to adapt the I6 to the Packard bellhousing or trans or use the Ford bellhousing and trans and then have the Packard driveshaft modified to suit. Third, would be the distance between the I6's fan and the radiator because the Packard 8 is a much longer engine. Probably solvable by using an electric fan which could form part of your electrical system compatibility fix. After all that, as HH56 said, "some engines are rather common across years and easily found for probably less than the swap would cost", and on that basis maybe something like this engine would be cheaper and easier for enabling the Packard to be up and running for the purposes you mentioned.

All that said, I hope you do purchase the Packard and when you do I invite you to include your '48 Deluxe Sedan in the Packard Owner's Registry here, together with a pic, any known history and how you acquired it?

Now 710 Packards in the Packard Owner's Registry.

And 2615 Forum members.
A BIG to all those who added their Packard/s to the Registry.

G'day and to another Aussie PackardInfo member, and to alpacka35 for including his '35 Eight Sedan in the Packard Owner's Registry. Although there's no pic in the Registry entry I wonder if the one in the pic below is the Packard in question?

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to bhappy for including his very nice '56 Executive Touring Sedan in the Packard Owner's Registry Makes me very happy.

Quote:Pat,

Pardon me, but I believe you might have the bull by the horns on this one or, as you might say, the cow by the tail!

BH has been a prolific contributor to PackardInfo since it's inception over 4 years ago. As Kev's blurb says in Helping Out, "PackardInfo is supported and funded by user donations.........by either donating content, or funds to help with the upkeep and hosting of this site". BH has certainly been a major content contributor which benefits ALL PackardInfo users. As to whether he's contributed financially I just don't know, that's a matter purely between Kev and BH. There is also a difference between a subscription service for an Online publication(which PackardInfo is not) where access is subject to payment and a user driven Site such as this. You would also note that BH is a Forum Ambassador. Those positions are not handed out lightly by Kev, in fact they are earned and rightfully so.

Edit - You really need to turn your question around look in the mirror and say "Where would you I be without this site and without contributors like BH"?
All that said, I know BH is not backward about coming forward so brace yourself!