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Re: Converting BTV to manual brakes...
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Good info, more and more I think converting to manual makes a great deal of sense. I may get rid of BTV on my '58 Olds as well.

Posted on: 2017/2/7 15:53
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Modern (improved) fluids for Twin-Ultramatic?
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Roger Anderson
I see that Dexron or Type F is generally recommended.

Is ATF+4 compatible? It's apparently a newer synthetic fluid used by modern Chryslers with superior characteristics regarding temperature stability and longevity, and is supposedly a Dexron type of fluid with friction modifiers that improve shifting characteristics, the latter having been a traditional weak point of TU?

Posted on: 2017/2/6 10:38
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Re: Converting BTV to manual brakes...
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Great advice all around, many thanks gents.

Being I'd like to keep it as stock as possible I suppose I'd opt for the original parts as used then to the extent possible. Being Kanter's is cleaning house, it might be wise to check with them, I presume.

Has anyone around here done a power-to-manual conversion?
So many folks have never driven a post early-50s big car with well set-up manual brakes, I suspect that if they had they might prefer them. Done properly they should stop every bit as well as power, with better finesse and control, imo.

Posted on: 2017/2/6 10:28
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Converting BTV to manual brakes...
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Have always preferred the directness and more subtle modulation and control afforded by good manual brakes. My 1st car, a '63 Ford wagon, had manual brakes, as did my '70 Fury III convertible; since driving those cars back then I've preferred manual.

What would be involved in converting a 55/56 Clipper with BTV to a manual brake system, has anyone done this? It would on the surface appear to be be easier than converting the flawed, to my mind, BTV (and I have the same bloody thing on my '58 Olds Super 88 as well) to another type of power brake system, and I prefer manual anyway. Dual master cylinder would also be desirable. Comments, gentlemen? (and ladies, if there are any here).

Posted on: 2017/2/5 18:57
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Roger Anderson
Thanks for that info Howard and also to Duane for the 6 cyl heads up.

Yes, Ross in Parkton lives about 15 miles from where I was born and grew up, about 4 hrs. south now. He'd be the man for any TU repair for sure. I actually sold him a red & white '56 Exec project that I'd bought from a fellow in RI some years ago and didn't had the ability to restore at the time. I moved away from MD at age 50, before I had bought my 1st Packard. But I had gone to a few Packard meets out in Frederick, also had spoken to George Hamlin and Dwight Heinmuller (sp?) there, both of whom also lived in my general area. IIRC Ross usually goes somewhere to volunteer this time of winter, so may not be "around" at the moment?

Posted on: 2017/2/4 13:09
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Howard, that is certainly a possibility. The car we're looking at has slightly over 80k and supposedly ran not too long ago. If it's V8 has made it thus far with no permanent damage I may well opt to keep it, at least for awhile as I try to figure out a 6 conversion, and if so would update to the Olds pump, it seems like the way to go.

As to the Twin UltraMatic, again if it works... I've kind of forgotten what issues they typically had, our Clipper had the 3 spd manual. If this new car is a late production version, wonder if any updates weremade to improve TU's reliability?

Posted on: 2017/2/3 14:51
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Re: Happy Birthday Big Kev
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Roger Anderson
HBD Kevin!
Been absent from PI.com for a few years, but hopefully we will be getting our 3rd Packard very soon.

Hope you are acclimatizing to living in the Great White North. Have a great day, and thanks for keeping this place going all these years, many great folks and a wonderful resource!

Posted on: 2017/2/3 14:35
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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With my increasingly Swiss-cheese memory, I had completely forgotten that we'd posted regarding this very same Six Cyl Transplant subject back in anno 2010, wherein some very interesting and helpful responses, not to mention some most intriguing speculation (not that that is at all unusual around here!) were to be had. So... the Dream still lives.

http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/mod ... =ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

It would seem, then, that the 1940s era Packard Six would fit length-wise. The differing factor now in 2017 is the absolute necessity of adding a pre-Gear Start UltraMatic, due to advancing age, what with dodgy knees and hips and such. I wonder if a Packard Six has ever been adjoined with ANY automatic?

Posted on: 2017/2/3 10:52
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Agreed, it'd be much about having proper gearing, however it might not need radical change, as mentioned am a rather sedate driver... it'd likely never go over 50 or on a highway, we prefer slow pottering around on local side roads in our village and out in the beautiful countryside, and it's only 2 miles from our house out to the "sticks".

We don't do shows or old car meets, we just like to have fun driving around in the cars of our youth (which was a long time ago!) Even our daily driver is an old '79 Electra.

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Posted on: 2017/2/3 9:42
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Re: Back to PI.com...Big Kev's move & also my bucket list dream... possible?
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Thanks for the kind welcome back folks!
I've always felt this forum to have by far the most gentlemanly (is that even a word?) demeanor of the many car groups I have patronized, most appropriate and quite in the true Packard mold, and a great incentive to once again be a Man That Owns One!

Intriguing idea Steve, would the front clip of a 55 or 56 bolt up seamlessly to the 54 chassis? I must say, though, that one of the things I really enjoy about the 55/6 cars is their wonderful jewel-like dashboard, something that Packard obviously gave a lot of thought to. The dash has always been a high priority for me as one spends a lot of time looking at it!

The wonderful Torsion-Level also has a great appeal. Probably be easiest to convert just the engine & trans. And am a big fan of the simple rugged and torquey 245 Six engine, just hoping the shorter (than straight 8) Big Six will fit the V8 space, certainly the 288/327/359 would be way too long. No idea if the Six will fit or can even be adapted to the Ultra, but hoping Ross M. or ? will know... I know Ross has in the past done some fairly innovative Packard modifications and adaptations.

There were 6's in 47 Clippers as cabs, and weighed only 150 lbs less than a 55/6 Clipper, so guessing it'd be fairly satisfactory power-wise, and I mainly potter around locally at below 50mph anyway. Automatic, though, is a must because my creaky knees and legs are no longer up to clutching, a chief reason we reluctantly let our lovely turquoise Clip go, luckily to a v good home.

Have located an apparently solid and worthy donor/project car, but will hold off on details if & until it appears to be a feasible and workable solution. Yet another Clipper Deluxe!

Posted on: 2017/2/2 15:02
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