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Re: 1940 Super 8 160 Model 1803 Project
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Joe Santana
Yes, my apologies, too, Jim. I'll get mine started. Great photo of the seal and attaching it there makes sense because it veers away from the frame toward the fender midway.
There is one bolt in the front of the splasher to the radiator cradle. The splasher has a tongue at the bottom front that extends just under the mounting plate for the arched fender support and bolts just forward of that.

Posted on: 2010/10/19 13:33
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Re: 1940 Super 8 160 Model 1803 Project
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I vaguely remember the cloth and kept asking myself about it. I'm the last guy on technical, but the inside panels of the fenders are indeed called Splashers, part 7.011, and the dust ruffle is the Front Fender Splasher Seal 7.015, riveted apparently (9/64 rivets are listed with the seal...and that's why I have all these thin washers, so the rivets could hold the material better).
I'm missing the plate, it may be around here somewhere, but the dusters bit the dust so long ago (I've had the car since 1960), I think it's unlikely. A photo would be a great help.

West, thanks, on the reminder for the water hose and the fuel line cover. There was just a small piece of the original one left, so we forgot it when we reassembled. There's a fuel pump shield I've seen advertised, but not sure if that's original equipment, but I can check my parts book.

I see I need to start my own blog, recap what I've done and then do updates. I was a lousy project manager and that's why my car wasn't ready for my 50th high school reunion last summer. This summer my cousin's daughter is getting married in St. Helena in July. I'm shooting for that now. From the 1960 Bellarmine Prep (like Brophy) yearbook....gone surfin', surfin' usa.

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Posted on: 2010/10/19 10:18
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Re: 1940 Super 8 160 Model 1803 Project
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Jim
I know you know what you're getting into, but here are some pix from when my son and I were working on my engine.

I was fitting my front fenders last night and couldn't figure out what the bottoms of the splashers attach to. I see all the little holes in the bottom of the splasher and I saved about 20 thin little flat washers for it. THey could be bent they've been out of the car for so long.

Also the splasher seems to be fighting the 1/2 in. or 5/8th support arm that connects the back of the poker (for lack of correct part name) in the wheel carrier to the cowl. Does the arm go over the top of the splasher or behind it (between the splasher and the edge of the cowl)?

Joe

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Posted on: 2010/10/18 15:02
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Re: 1940 Super 8 160 Model 1803 Project
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Wow, Jim, I am envious. I've been busy sanding what I've primed and replacing (correcting) fasteners. My steering column is out of the car so I can clean it up and paint it, so no driving. Here's the last time I drove my 1377, Memorial Day a couple of years ago. Also looking for a dashpot to control the throttle when the overdrives disengages. And a jack.

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Posted on: 2010/10/15 18:54
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Re: Pre-War Dual Side Mount Packard ???
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I can see that the trunk rack was cannibalized. There are 6 bolt holes in the bumper, so the guards can be moved away from the center (without mounting them in that ridiculous looking outer position) and the rack can come down with out hitting the guards. Mine is one of the earliest 40s, sold on announcement day in Aug '39, and there are several differences compared to those built after Feb '40, so I wouldn't rule out that a trunk rack bumper could have a Packard script logo. Also plain is that the license bracket/light fixture was high on the trunk to be above the rack when it's up. The bumper brackets would be longer, too. Fetish or not, there are exceptions, such as contentions about no belt line pin striping.

Posted on: 2010/10/15 18:21
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The Packard Plant in the news
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This is a sorry story. There must be some memorabilia to retrieve if and before Detroit is allowed to demolish it.
http://www.manufacturing.net/News-Det ... ant-Torn-Down-070910.aspx

No Michigan Region of either Packard club.

At least the front doors and portico should be preserved.

Posted on: 2010/7/9 17:05
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Re: 1940 Packard Super Eight 160 Convertible Sedan - Unrestored
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Jim-
Yes, I have Jim's book. It's a very good resource. One thing he's adamant about is "No pin-striping except around the wheels." But mine was pin striped just above the belt moulding with a dip that followed the tip of the spear upfront in Flare Red. My convertible didn't have the chrome trim around the windows like the closed cars that replaced pin-striping. And it had the original owner's 3 initials on both back doors in one of the typefaces offered. It may have been an Earle C Anthony options guide that I found it in. He does mention that dealers did the pin-striping sometimes, but it wasn't done at the factory. I just don't want to get dinged points because of it. (There may be plenty of other reasons.)

I actually met Jim by chance in Portland about 30 years ago. He told me I had an early 40 because the sidemount covers didn't have 3 strips of trim. Also the script hubcaps are right for my early car. I have a new set from Kanter. My car was sold officially on Aug 18, 1939 by Earle C. Anthony on Van Ness in SFO. I think that was announcement day. I've talked to Jim and emailed about 5 years ago when I bought his book. He was very helpful and encouraging. But the last time I tried I didn't get a response, numbers had changed or something.

I hauled my steering column to the paint store and they matched the color by hand for the brown metal parts inside the car and top rails.

One part that is still missing are the 2 removable pillar latches. I have the plate they mount to and the catch, but not the latch.

I'm working on fitting a new wood box into the car. Some pictures that show the finished height above the metal of the body would be really helpful. I put so many tops on the my car over the years, the upper sections of the wood just gave way. One upholsterer finally resorted to putting the snaps and tack strip in the metal.

See if you can tell if the handbrake handle was wood-grained.

Any info you can get on the overdrive throttle control, the dash pot, if it has one.

Additional pix would be great... trunk, engine.

Now You're the lucky guy, JIm. (You'll get more questions to answer.)
Joe

Posted on: 2010/7/6 14:38
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Re: Paint X-Reference
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Interior metal parts paint color 1940
I'm restoring a 1940 conv sedan 1803. The conv top rails were painted the same color as the steering column, a brown color. It was used in all the 40s. The auto paint stores can't get a reading on curved parts like the steering column (which I hauled in there) so we ended up guessing. Does anyone have the x-ref for this color? I couldn't find a name for in in my Parts List or Jim Hollingsworth book on 1940s.

Posted on: 2010/7/5 11:33
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Re: 1940 Packard Super Eight 160 Convertible Sedan - Unrestored
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Tom-

What a terrific find. I'm restoring an early version of this model. Finally some long weekend time to work on it. I was searching the website for info on the paint color used for the convertible metal and the steering column, that brown color, when I spotted your ad.

My car has been in the family since 1948. It was given to me to drive in 1960. I drove it until 86. Took it all apart, dipped and primed and left it in storage for 10 years. Bought a bunch of parts, but it sat another 10 years. So now I'm so old I'm scared I'll never drive the thing again, so I've been working on it every chance I get.

So many people would buy this car in a flash. It's in great condition for restoring and so complete.

Can you tell if the hand brake handle is woodgrained or just painted that brown color of the steering column? The front of the engine?

Is the dash pot still on the carburetor? Does it have any numbers or mfr name?

If you haven't sold the car already, would you have the time to take more pix and post them? The inside of the trunk? The right side of the engine?

If you did sell it, could you ask the new owner to email me for same?

Gee, you're a lucky guy! Thanks, Tom.
Joe

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Posted on: 2010/7/5 10:50
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