Don't know if this can help you with your fan clearance. The newest Packard I have worked on was a 52. Somewhere sometime many years ago I was rebuilding an engine and put on a fresh rebuilt pump. Mounted the radiator and had very little clearance. Don't remember what year the car was or model. But at the time an old timer said that the replacement pump was from a previous or later, or senior, or junior model. Same pump except that the shaft was slightly longer, and that the front flange was sitting on the shaft about 1/2 inch more towards the front of the car. Solution is to take off the back plate, support the shaft (not the impeller or housing), must be the shaft and in a press push the front flange back as far as needed for the proper clearance. The front flange, the one with the four screw holes that the blade mounts on, is just pressed onto the shaft. AGAIN, don't know if this will work on your car. And, you must support the shaft. And don't have a thicker radiator, advice direct from Modine many years ago, thicker is not necessarily better.

You will find that a water trap may not completely take care of the problem. If your air inlet hose is flexible try to run it through a beam over head. This may stop alot of the water from going through to the blaster gun. Making an inverted U shape. But, you might just find you need a larger compressor that does not have to run continuously while in use. Even with these small blasters I have found around a 7 1/2 hp is needed. In using very fine blasting media, I usually tap the gun every 20 to 30 seconds against something solid to keep things from clogging up. And try not to blast towards the top you will see it will become hazy quickly.

Yes I do remember the tanks. We were only about 10 or so at the time. So while you were in LeConte (sort of) we were still in elementary school. My friends last name was Ancona, his mother still lives in the house one and a half blocks off of Barham. Still can't think of the name, but it is where the liquor store had been for as long as I can remember.
Don't know any of your friends as we lived on the other side of the Hollywood Freeway off Mulholland.

Now, someone tell me how to print this whole thing out on my printer for Roger. And how I can send Pack12 fan an email.

Thanks Todd

And then a quick story of how I came to know Roger. I had just purchased my 39 12. It was 1987. I wanted to have the block and radiator flushed out, as the car had been driven very little in the previous ten to fifteen years. For those of you familiar with Los Angeles. San Fernando Road in the Burbank area was home to many long time garages. Young's Radiator had been there for about 40+ years. I go there, and I start to tell the owner (you can picture the old fashioned type, sixties, big cigar, bib overalls) how to flush the car, when he interrupts me and says "it's a Packard 12, I know what to do I have done hundreds". So I shut up. The back of the car is sticking out of one of the stalls. Roger just happens to be driving by and thinks he recognizes the car and pulls in. Well, you all know when you drive these everyone tries to tell you what to do and how to do it, and they really don't know anything. So Roger starts talking with my wife, we try to be polite all the while I am telling her to just smile and ignore him and he will go away. I don't think I said two words to him. But she got his name and phone number. A few days later I call Carol at PI about a few things and happen to mention who is Roger Morrison, and should I bother to even call back. All I hear is a gasp on the other end, and her saying something like Todd are you crazy?
The rest is history.

I am going to make a copy of all of this for Roger. Remember he does not have a computer. I am working on it! So if many of you can reply with a positive message and any names and phone numbers I will pass it on.
He is going to Pebble Beach in about a week to help take the Nethercutt cars up there and to be a judge for more than thirty years. So I will see him when he gets back. And be sure not to challenge him on the judging of any cars, you will get yourself into trouble.

Again, wonderful site, hope this repays in a small way all the wonderful things all of you are doing. Todd.

Packfan 12 give me your name and I can pass it on to Roger.
Roger sold his 37 12 in 1957 to Mike McMannus of Atlantic Auto Parts. A parts salvage lot. He then sold it to J.B. Nethercutt. Nethercutt parted it out for another 37 12 club sedan. This 37 is still in the collection to this day.

I now remember Charlie telling how he was the young dump kid, and all the senior Packard mechanics would pass all of the 12 jobs onto him. He said he did not know any better.

So now, onto a couple of stories while Roger is with Noll Auto Co.
Some of you may know the Wrigley's owned much property in the Los Angeles area. One home was in Pasadena, you know the home now as the large mansion the Rose Parade uses, with the Queens and committee members stand in front of for the cameras. They used to have a 39 12 sedan, and for service the cheuffeur would regularly bring it to Noll for service. Roger would occasionally talk with the driver. One day he told Roger that the car was being sold, and in its place the Wrigleys were purchasing a Pontiac Station Wagon. To this day at least once a year Roger will tell me, yikes! one of the wealthiest families and they go to of all things a Pontiac from a Packard 12!
Another story is the grandsons of Sir William Baden-Powell (hope this is spelled correctly)founder of the Boy Scouts owned two 1948 Limos. For a long period of time one car would come all beat up. The dealership would paint, clean, tune up, body work, etc. Out it would go then the other one would come in all beat up. This went on for sometime. Roger finally asked what is happening. He was told that the family owned a ranch in Montana, and the cars would go up there and then be used on the trails and dirt roads. The family loved the cars and always wanted one to drive. So they had to alternate the cars being serviced.

While working at these dealerships Roger purchased several Packards either through his contacts with customers or outside.
He purchased a 1940 Formal Super Eight for 300.00
1940 Darrin convertible for 750.00
1940 Bohman & Schwartz Super Eight Sedan. Yes this is the one when you open the doors the running board comes out from underneath the car, and has factory a/c
1936 120 Convertible sedan for 200.00
1939 12 Limo from Anna Morris, of Fairbanks-Morris Scales. Roger still has this Limo. Trust me, this car is to die for. Mint, mint, mint original. Even with call buzzer for the driver.

In 1963 Roger went to work for Pacific Piano for two years and learned his trade as service technician for both Ampico and Duo-Art reproducing pianos. Then he spent time with his own company working on the pianos.

In 1965 his friend Harold Crosby asked him to join the Nethercutt Collection as curator. A couple of years later he went into the electrical department. And has been there ever since.

Also over the years he has become one of the foremost collectors and restorers of Capeharts.

I will pause here then come back to finish, so that I don't get kicked out again.

I do mostly pre war. But, I would think after a rebuild, on any of these, check axle runout. Make sure shims are not all on one side or the other.

I spent all of the eighties living in Encino or Woodland Hills.
I spent the last year and a half with Charlie Last. He was getting old and had a bad case of the shakes. He also had a problem of falling asleep most of the time. I wanted to get a 12 engine built for my car. He didn't and couldn't do anymore engines. So I paid him a lesser amount and went to his shop about three times per week to do the actual work while he advised and tried to stay awake. At this time there were two other final straight eight engines, that I had to finish for him, as he could not even put a bolt in or even get the wrench on the head. Again because of his shaking. I never met the two other engine owners, but I hope they worked out ok. At the end I actually purchased the shop, but he had a senior moment for about a week and got confused, Backed out, then wanted to do it. But I purchased a piece of property instead.

Talk soon. Todd.

I have a few 8x10 factory or copies of factory photos of mid thirties thru fifties that may be of help. I forgot how to scan them to your site. And do they need to be reduced. Thanks

I just found out that after so much time or so much typing it blows everything you just typed out.
Anyway, Got your number Ron. Pack 12 where and when did you live in the S.F. Valley.
Instead of finishing this up tonight, I will break it down and condense a bit more.

Roger driving his Packard 12 he finds around 1954 he needs a few parts. He visits several independent and Packard agencies around the Pasadena, Glendale area. All of the service departments and mechanics tell him that they don't know where to get parts, or they are not familiar working on these. So one day he wanders into Rehwald Packard in Glendale. Which was originally Kelly Motor Co. No one can help him, until an older salesman spots him who evidently had sold Packards pre war. He strikes up a friendship and is told that these parts can either be ordered or found. In order to get these parts and be able to pay for them, he takes on the job of lot boy, and auto delivery person. Shortly after this, the dealership becomes Rehwald-Danyluk Motors, and declines to take on the Studebaker line. So all Packard and Studebaker sales is discontinued. And Roger is out of a job.
He then makes his way to Noll Auto Co. in Pasadena. Noll was originally Bush-Morgan Packard just down the street at 1095 Colorado Street. During World War II this location was switched with the Buick dealership at 1285 East Colorado. Roger says that both buildings are intact, so be sure to visit 1095, and 1285.
He is hired into the parts department, and service. He is employed there from about 1956 thru 1963.
To keep things going at the dealership, it becomes Noll-Baldwin Auto Co. They continue to service Packards until 1963, and become distribtor and sales for Mercedes, and a british line, which includes Triumph, Hillman, Simca, etc. (Bet you have not thought about Simca for awhile!)

A bit later or tomorrow, so that I don't get kicked out again, I will go into a couple of stories about the vehicles serviced, and some of the vehicles he purchased while there.

Thanks again Todd.