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Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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Last night , as I was working on my car, I discovered some markings that appeared to be original.

From what I could make out , stenciled in white paint:

"PACK 1803....._0-12"

Any thoughts ?

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Posted on: 2018/7/31 7:09
Steve P
Forest, Va

1929 645 Dual Cowl Phaeton
1937 120C Conv Coupe
1940 1389 Conv Coupe
1940 1377 Super 8 160 Conv Sedan
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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Above PACK, it looks like AOS. If so, that would A.O. Smith in Milwaukee.
What year is the frame?

Posted on: 2018/7/31 9:15
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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If you look thru some of the pages of Cli55er's 55 project blog where his work on the frame is covered there is an almost complete marking that shows the information that was stenciled on 55 frames. I would imagine all years that used frames made by A. O. Smith probably had a similar look and info.

Posted on: 2018/7/31 9:35
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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A. O. Smith's participation in the automotive frame business dates back to about 1900 and was supplying Packard with frames at least as far back as the 6th Series and perhaps much further back.

Posted on: 2018/7/31 9:44
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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Directly above the "1803" is stenciled "39".
My car is an early 1940 , so one would assume that the frame was fab'ed in 1939.

Thanks for A.O. Smith info........I was not aware of the association

Posted on: 2018/7/31 10:32
Steve P
Forest, Va

1929 645 Dual Cowl Phaeton
1937 120C Conv Coupe
1940 1389 Conv Coupe
1940 1377 Super 8 160 Conv Sedan
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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Is there any reason to keep the markings intact?

I'm in the process of having the frame sandblasted so is there any reason to protect the markings?

Posted on: 2018/8/1 7:08
Steve P
Forest, Va

1929 645 Dual Cowl Phaeton
1937 120C Conv Coupe
1940 1389 Conv Coupe
1940 1377 Super 8 160 Conv Sedan
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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Is there any reason to keep the markings intact?

Depends on your attitude towards preserving historical detail.

Posted on: 2018/8/1 7:31
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Thanks Dave,
You answered my question...................
I'll mask it off during the sandblasting process.

Posted on: 2018/8/1 8:50
Steve P
Forest, Va

1929 645 Dual Cowl Phaeton
1937 120C Conv Coupe
1940 1389 Conv Coupe
1940 1377 Super 8 160 Conv Sedan
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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Another option might be to take some good photos for placement and look etc. Have a stencil made to complete the missing info. Reapply the marking after the frame is done with just a bit of age added. I believe that is what Henry did on his 55.

Posted on: 2018/8/1 10:16
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Re: Interesting tidbit about frame ID
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Howard's suggestion is certainly an option, but in no way is it preserving original detail.

Posted on: 2018/8/1 14:32
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