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Re: Wade's Workshop
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Sunday 2nd August 2015
More work on the Coupe prepping then painting the timing case cover in black. I know it's not "correct" but have to use whats available in lieu of Packard engine green. Also cleaned up the front of the engine somewhat, more still needs to be done once the timing case goes back on and the front engine mount is reinstalled. Then turned to removing the intake/exhaust manifold. To do so needed to disconnect the carb linkage, the vacuum advance, the fuel line, removed the fuel pump heat shield and disconnected the exhaust pipe. I'm afraid my chubby fingers aren't adept at removing manifold nuts, plus the nuts aren't very accessible even with the front clip off. But got there, although once again I suffered a false dawn trying to lift off the manifold with the two middle nuts still secured. Came off relatively easily once they were removed! ![]()
Posted on: 2015/8/2 2:23
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Re: Wade's Workshop
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Believe it or not, the brass nuts are what the factory used, because they have a coefficient of thermal expansion more similar to that of cast iron. Also, make sure you don't get them too tight! I overtightened the nuts on my 115, and I believe that contributed to the manifold re-cracking along a previously repaired crack.
Posted on: 2015/8/2 6:40
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1937 120 1092 - Original survivor for driving and continued preservation. Project blog / Registry
1937 115 1082 - Total basket case, partial restoration, sold Hershey 2015 Project blog / Registry |
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Re: Wade's Workshop
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Monday 3rd August 2015
Spent most of the afternoon just cleaning and prepping for putting the timing case cover back on. Someone(moi?) was somewhat liberal with the black paint on the timing cover necessitating overpaint removal from various gasket services, seems I remember Wade complaining about the same thing from time to time. Soaking the crankshaft seal in oil overnight then the seal, it's retainer and the timing case cover will go back on. Cleaned the front motor mount up as well and it will go back on once the timing cover is in place. Jack currently supporting engine, together with wooden block, can then be removed. Also cleaned up the intake/exhaust manifold gasket surfaces and the exhaust pipe clamp surfaces, relatively easy to do. Next was the intake/exhaust manifold on the block, a little more involved because of various studs getting in the way not to forget the rearmost exhaust post surface up near the firewall being more difficult to access. Had a phone call early in the day from Warren of Warners Bay Radiator Service to say the re-cored radiator is ready. Wade is going to pick it up and drop it off at the workshop next week when he comes to Sydney for the day. Also spoke with Wade for advice, twice. Firstly about what sealant to use on the intake/exhaust manifold and then about soaking the crankshaft seal in oil prior to its installation. In my cleaning of the intake/exhaust manifolds noticed a casting number on the exhaust manifold of #359893. Later, in checking the parts book, found the actual part number to be #356894. A confirmation that, in many instances, the part and casting numbers differ by a digit or two.
Posted on: 2015/8/3 2:32
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Tuesday 4th August 2015
A little progress, worked on getting the timing case on. Thought it would be straightforward but there always seem to be bumps along the way, well for me there are! Extracted the soaking crankshaft seal from it's oil bath and inserted it into it's carrier and then onto the crankshaft snout. Painted up all the gasket surfaces with Loctite No3 non hardening sealant. Then carefully, but not carefully enough as I dislodged the crankshaft seal from it's carrier when I tried to place the timing cover in place! Tried again after resettling the crankshaft seal into it's carrier. Good that time but in trying to align the timing case cover with the block dislodged the two gaskets where they meet. Off with the timing case, realign the gaskets, again dislodged the crankshaft seal from it's carrier! After a number of attempts finally was together and aligned. Except inserting the bolts was another little difficulty, some would screw in, other were reluctant to do so. Got enough in to hold the timing case in place and turned to the flat bar that holds the bottom of the timing case through the front of the sump(oil pan) by means of four bolts. To do that thought I'd have to get under the Coupe again, that was how I got them out. But after jacking the engine up slightly and putting the front motor mount temporarily back on suddenly had a eureka moment ![]()
Posted on: 2015/8/4 4:37
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Saturday 8th August 2015
Today, after a concrete driveway was poured and the concrete finished, put the front motor mount back on the Coupe. But before putting on the motor mount cleaned the channel at the back of the crossmember of it's accumulated grime and associated matter. Part of the associated matter included a manifold washer, wondered where that went? Trickier than I thought, requiring some finessing between the jacking height of the engine combined with some leverage to align the bolts holding the mount to the front crossmember. Then some more cleaning of the front and sides of the engine followed by cleaning of the splashed around oil on the front clip. To do that, lifted the clip back up with the chain block permitting a pleasant working height on a messy job for a change. That was it for the day, or so I thought. Later there was a knock on the door and who should be there but Graham, the concreter who did the driveway. Expected Graham on Monday, with the concrete starting to cure and permitting him to finish off the work on the driveway. Turns out Graham was passing in his '64 Ford Falcon XM Coupe after filling up at a service(gas) station. Slowed down to inspect his handiwork and in putting his foot on the clutch the pedal went to the floor when the clutch slave cylinder gave up the ghost. Graham had already called for a tow truck, so what was the reason Graham knocked on the door? He'd pulled up behind my daily driver which was parked on the street because of the driveway work and parked in front of me was a neighbours Ute. Graham needed my car, and the Ute, to be moved so the tow truck could pull the Falcon on front first. Then, a few minutes later, the tow truck couldn't find the Falcon when it reached my street turning right instead of left. Fortunately the tow truck driver pulled up, so was able to chauffeur Graham to the tow truck in my daily driver. After being loaded on the tow truck and on their way home, passed them a little later on my way out. Notes on Graham's XM Coupe - small block Ford 302 V8 with 289 heads and a Toyota Supra 5 speed gearbox(transmission). Bought by Graham about 18 years ago, the V8 swap had already been done because ALL Aussie built Falcons up to '67 came only with 6 cylinder power.
Posted on: 2015/8/8 4:31
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Thursday 13th August 2015
Yesterday - Picked up the re-cored radiator from the workshop which Wade had delivered there. Speaking of the workshop, I was saddened to learn that Misty, John's dog had succumbed to cancer. No more bones for her although she's probably very happy chasing motorcycles in doggy heaven. Wade also delivered the remains of my 20 litre drum of engine oil, probably about 3 to 4 litres left, which was in his garage. Unfortunately our paths didn't cross so I'll have to thank him for the delivery service another day. Today - Put the radiator back into it's cradle. Safest place for it be, out of the way and ready for when the front clip goes back on. Not much more done than that although there was further cleaning of the manifold surface on the engine block. Although I said this "brass nuts on the manifold studs. I'm going to go with steel nuts when it goes back together", Ken's advice that "Believe it or not, the brass nuts are what the factory used, because they have a coefficient of thermal expansion more similar to that of cast iron" has led me to a change of mind. So tidied up the brass nuts for the job ahead. Want to have the manifold back on. as well as a number of other things, before the front clip goes on.
Posted on: 2015/8/13 1:32
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Monday 17th August 2015
After yesterdays Shannons Sydney Classic during which I fielded many queries about why the Coupe wasn't in attendance did something about that today. More cleaning of gasket surfaces on the block and intake/exhaust manifold and ensuring the brass nuts would screw onto the studs without impediment. Then using Permatex Hitemp RTV laid down a track on one side of the three intake/exhaust manifold gaskets and pressed them gently against the block then laid another track of RTV on the intake/exhaust manifold side of the gaskets. Maneuvered the intake/exhaust manifold unit into place, relatively easy because the front clip is off. I wouldn't want to attempt doing that if the clip was still on! Put on the thick washers followed by the brass nuts and tightened them gently so as not to squeeze the RTV out from the gasket, block and intake/exhaust manifolds surfaces. Will tighten the nuts down tomorrow. Put the carb back on, reconnected the throttle linkage, reconnected the fuel line, reconnected the tube to the automatic choke and finally reconnected the vacuum advance line to the distributor. The tube to the automatic choke doesn't connect to the tube through the exhaust manifold, it was broken when I got the Coupe. Instead Tim of Carburettor Service Company, when he rebuilt and refitted the carb, rigged up a brass tube which winds around and lays against the middle of the exhaust manifold, works well. The only problem with these reinstalls was the vacuum advance tube. Ended up, after many attempts and not wanting to cross thread anything, unscrewing the carb fitting and starting the vacuum advance tube into that and then reinstalling the carb fitting into the base of the carb. Link to yesterdays photos, mostly uncaptioned.
Posted on: 2015/8/17 16:21
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Tuesday 18th August 2015
Only a little done today. Tightened the intake/exhaust manifold nuts, remounted the generator and removed the water pump to check the water distribution tube. Generator was straightforward but will be tightened up once the fan and fan belt are mounted. In order to remove the water pump needed to drain the remaining coolant in the block. Undid the four bolts holding the water pump to the block and as I did so coolant started to drain out, running mainly down the front of the engine thence into a large container under the car. I'd needed to wait until the timing case was back on before undertaking this exercise. And didn't spill a drop! A near miracle for me. Once the coolant finished flowing, jacked up the rear of the Coupe so it was higher than the front allowing the coolant sitting in the block to flow out. I don't think I'm going to undo the little plug on the side of the block. The coolant that drained didn't seem to have any contaminants in it. Extracting the water distribution tube was a little harder than I thought it would be. But only because the end of the tube caught on the lip on the inside of the water jacket. Using a pair of pliers, to grip the tube, and a thin knife to slightly compress the top of the tube it then slid out easily. After being in there for 5 years there are no signs of any deposits in the tube although it needs a good cleaning, being slimy to touch. Haven't investigated the block itself as I need to get a good direct light source to shine down the block cavity. Attach file: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Posted on: 2015/8/18 1:50
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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Back on the 15th March BDC posted this "Mal, what does the red hexagon mean?" in response to this post on the same day containing a flyer for our upcoming Packard National Rally. I didn't know
![]() About the Packard Hexagon As a side note, some historians credit the Model L as not only the first Packard to feature the company's famous yoke shaped radiator, but also her red hexagon hub caps. That was not the case. The first hex hubcaps appeared a couple of models later on the Model S. They were designed as an indent in the rear hubcap to facilitate using a special tool to remove the cap. For cosmetic purposes, the front cap featured the same indented hex, but served no practical purpose. The hexagons in the caps were actually painted black from the factory, not red. However, whenever the wheels were serviced by the factory or an authorized dealer, the hexagons were painted red to signify maintenance. The red was so attractive that Packard decided to make it their standard. Reportedly around 1940, the company was planning a modification, but there was such uproar from customers, they decided to continue with no changes to their famous icon. Now I know, ![]()
Posted on: 2015/8/21 20:48
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/o[]o\ ==== ![]() Bowral, Southern Highlands of NSW, Australia "Out of chaos comes order" - Nietzsche. 1938 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD 1941 One-Twenty Club Coupe - SOLD 1948 Super Eight Limo, chassis RHD - SOLD 1950 Eight Touring Sedan - SOLD What's this? ![]() Put your Packard in the Packard Vehicle Registry! Here's how! Any questions - PM or email me at ozstatman@gmail.com |
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