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No photos but illustrations from early 50's Motor's and Chilton manuals.
Posted on: 2010/4/5 17:42
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And more button arrangements. straightl line and Vertical
Amazing what designers will do without constraints of linkage. Powerflite was the first truly automatic transmission from Chrysler and, I believe a fairly decent unit. A two speed so 4 buttons. Torque flite was introduced in 56 and was probably the best and most trouble free unit of any of the manufacturers. Three speed and 5 buttons. Neither of those had the park position although Torqueflite added it later.
Posted on: 2010/4/6 21:27
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Am I incorrect, I seem to recall that the American Motors pushbutton system was also mechanical.
Posted on: 2010/4/6 21:31
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Believe so. Didn't AMC use Torqueflites at at that time?
Posted on: 2010/4/6 21:36
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That I don't know, I just have a recollection of my aunt's Rambler, perhaps a 1962, with pushbuttons. But certainly TorqueFlite was among the best, if not the best, automatic transmission of the time.
Posted on: 2010/4/6 21:39
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Those pushbutton Ramblers used the Borg Warner 3 spd automatic. That is basicly the same tranny that Stude was using at the time--which leaves the inventive person with a fairly easy way to have pushbutton shifting in their 57/58! That would surprise them at the concours.
Posted on: 2010/4/6 21:49
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Right--and very similar to Mercury. Think that was also Borg Warner. Dad had a 58 Merc with PB's. That one had one long bar for drive on top and 3 or 4 buttons underneath so had to be also cable driven. Park was engaged by pushing and pulling a bar under the whole housing.
Posted on: 2010/4/6 22:06
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PowerFlite was also bullet-proof reliability-wise. It lasted to about 1961, after which only TorqueFlite was available. I've had around 15 cars with PF or TF. They were respectively, for their time, considered the best 2 sp and 3 spd trannies by most automotive commmentators. ZIL picked good ones to copy! Neither PF or TF ever had a PArk buton, but later TFs around 1962 got a sliding Park lever under the dash to provide a true transmission Park feature, rather than just depending on the sometimes unreliable E-brake. Last year for pushbuttons was 1964, for '65 federal safetly mandates required column or floor shift.
AMC went from Borg-Warner Flash-O-Matic to TorqueFLite 908/998/727 around '71.
Posted on: 2010/4/7 9:36
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Not to disagree, but speaking from personal experience plus lots of folk I've talked to over the years, at least the early PowerFlites had a habit of braking reverse bands. But that TorqueFlite was some trans, I had several over the years and recall my early days at the drag strip in my lowly Hudson Hornet watching Plymouth hemis with TorqueFlite having better ETs than 4-speed manuals. That was a real turning point. Due to the the fact that Hudsons had the wet clutch, the Hydramatic was much quicker, ours had a "locked" Hydramatic by B&M.
Posted on: 2010/4/7 9:56
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