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You can't. Just salesman blather.
Although, as the ad says, the car was done right, by THE expert on 1940 Packards. They've come down quite a bit on the price since they first started advertising it for sale. I think they started at around $120,000.
Posted on: 2013/9/26 16:48
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It is too bad because I think the 1940 club sedan is tops in looks. But if you want a real one I can point in the right direction.
Posted on: 2013/9/26 18:03
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It does beg the question: on exactly what date did modifications to 1940 Packards cease to become period rebodies and instead take on the label of modern new coachwork? Think of famous rebodies such as the Duesenberg Graber Victoria and R-R PII Darrin Town Car. What if Darrin had finished his Town Car not in 1938 but 1939? Or 1949? 1959? What if a Packard owner took her car to the dealer several years after she purchased it so that she could enjoy important updates in brakes, etc.?
Posted on: 2013/9/27 14:49
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What if someone today doesn't like the side mounts on his Packard and removes them, or doesn't have them and adds them? Or wants a different hood ornament? Or different color interior or exterior?
Where is the line?
Posted on: 2013/9/27 14:55
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They 're only original once.
Posted on: 2013/9/27 15:04
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Then there are no original Packards anymore. All have changed from the pristine condition they enjoyed when they rolled off the assembly line. If not by human nature then by mother nature.
Posted on: 2013/9/27 15:13
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I remember Jim telling me how he took many many photos of the other 2 town cars he used to model his car after.
He said that EVERYTHING was done exactly, except he had 1 or maybe 3 screws that were different so as it would be identifiable from the originals. That was a nice car.
Posted on: 2013/9/27 15:15
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The opening question was one of pedigree, or more specifically quality of pedigree and the importance of originality in same. There have been instances where a car's value has been enhanced by parting with originality and pursuing a rebody. The Duesenberg Graber Victoria started out as, I think, a LWB Murphy Town Car built in 1930 or 1934 and was modified by Graber in 1935 or 1937 to be a SWB Victoria of modern (for the times) design. Today it is celebrated as one of autodom's great achievements. The car has a unique pedigree that is just as high as the original-bodied car, if not higher. Why? In part because the design is fabulous. Were it a poor design many would have probably questioned the pedigree.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=635&q=duesenberg+graber&oq=duesenberg+graber&gs_l=img.3...1459.6598.0.6818.17.9.0.8.8.0.83.563.9.9.0....0...1ac.1.27.img..3.14.625.q4x08x1_mps#imgdii=_
Posted on: 2013/9/27 15:57
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I do agree with patgreen's challenge of pedigree in the advertisement of the Packard. The original Packard with the Town Car design had a certain pedigree, let's call it pedigree #1. Mr. Hollingsworth's knowledge and attention to detail carries its own pedigree and, combined with the build quality gives his car an impressive pedigree, let's call it pedigree #2. The problem is that the ad is implying that his car has pedigree #1. One might argue that they are close but nobody can argue that they are equal. That said, sounds like a fabulous car.
Posted on: 2013/9/27 16:19
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