Re: packard 1402 starter motor problems
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I'll wait for Jason or Dave to answer about the number of teeth. I do know the 36 Starter is the same as the 38 starter, (Dyneto/Autolite MAX-4014 - if you need one, I gots one) so I doubt you have a ring gear issue.
Additionally, I do not recognize the 12V starter number without digging deep into a parts book - are you saying you are setup for a 12V system? There was discussion about prewar 12V systems a few months back - as to whether anyone had ever seen one...I don't recall any definitive/positive information.
Posted on: 2014/2/26 19:27
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hi there thanks for email,what i got with the car was 3 engines in bits and 2 starter motors. the autolite starter has 9 teeth and turns the car over very slow because its a 12v starter,when i put the owen dynetto starter i it locked up,so i removed it and messured the pinion gear which is smaller,the car has a 6v system,i can get around it by making a 12v starter relay system which i dont realy want,i have 3 flywheels so maybe one of the engines was a 12v system for the uk and used a different ring gear and starter.
my father has a 1934 packard with the same engine and owen dyneto starter with 10 teeth.what i am going to do is to pull the engine out and check the teeth on the ring gear,but i dont want to do all that for nothing so i was hopeing that some new about this,have i got 2 wrong starters or 1 wrong flywheel. i have just recieved a starter bendix 9 tooth which is also wrong as the diameter of the gear is the same as the 10 tooth,hope you can make sence of this dave
Posted on: 2014/2/27 6:09
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What is the number of the owen-dyneto starter?
Posted on: 2014/2/27 7:55
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there is no tag on the starter motor
Posted on: 2014/2/27 9:30
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Is the car right-hand drive? If so it's remotely possible it was equipped with 12-volt. Are the generator and light bulbs 6-volt or 12-volt? What model # is the generator?
Correct 6-volt starter would be an Auto-Lite MAX 4014, flywheel 230425. The 36 Eight (1400-01-02) had a unique flywheel not shared with other models 1936 and prior. Though the 1933-36 parts list indicates this same flywheel was used on the 36 Super Eight, that error was corrected in Service Letter Vol. 12, #5. Are you sure the motor involved is a 1936 1402 motor? Motor #s should be 390501 thru 394505.
Posted on: 2014/2/27 9:34
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i have just been and had a look at another 1936 packard that is being restored 148 teeth on flywheel starter motor owen dyneto max4014,what i have found out is also the starter bendix is 9 tooth.however i have counted the teeth on the other flywheel 118 teeth which must be an earlier flywheel and 10 teeth on the bendix.
so what i need is a starter motor max4014 6 volt.if you have one of these can i have a price please dave
Posted on: 2014/2/27 10:49
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I have a nice MAX-4014, rebuilt, nice shiny solenoid, ready to go.
Price - 563.41 or so, plus shipping. Yikes!...who do we know with room in their luggage...If my price is out of line, someone please tell me. Senior Packard starters on ebait have gone way weird lately, some high, some higher, some crazy. The only other alternate starter is Delco 729-H (1937 Super 8). If you are not a numbers freak, this may be an alternate option, about the same price. I saw one of these last week at the PI meet, unknown condition, priced at 500.
Posted on: 2014/2/27 12:56
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I'm pretty sure I see what the problem is although it is quite late and bitter cold (-9 as I type) here in Michigan so I could be missing something. You sent me a picture of a drive and requested a 9 tooth replacement, so I sent you just that. Now that I see what your actual starter number is, you have/had the wrong drive and the one your are trying to use has a larger gear. You need a 9 tooth smaller gear drive. I have these in stock. Email me and I think we can get this straightened out. I apologize, I should have paid closer attention to your application and not just the picture of the drive you stated were looking for when you emailed me.
-Jason
Posted on: 2014/2/28 0:27
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I think I have sorted this out now many thanks
Posted on: 2014/2/28 15:19
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