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I am a bit confused by the variety of air cleaner configurations, and what is correct for which models.
For instance my car is a 200, but has the optional "300" engine (327) and an oil bath air cleaner. Mine is what I would consider a normal style of air cleaner, but I see a lot of cars with the larger air cleaner that crosses over the engine. Which style is considered normal for "junior" or "senior" models? Are there oil-wetted and oil bath versions of each type, and when were they used?
Posted on: 2015/11/22 13:52
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1952 Model 200 Deluxe Touring Sedan
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I think there are two sizes of the round ones, a smaller version that is oil-wetted and the larger one like mine that is an oil bath.
Are all the crossover style units oil bath type?
Posted on: 2015/11/22 14:17
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The crossover styles are the deluxe version inasmuch as the long cylinder is a silencer. Standard on 400s and I believe 300s. It was available for 200-250s but not sure if that was the oil bath which was the main option on the 200 and 250s. More likely the round oil bath was primarily used on those.
AFAIK postwar deluxe horizontal types are all oil bath but I believe there are a few prewars which cross over the engine having the silencer portion but are oil wetted.
Posted on: 2015/11/22 14:27
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From the 1951 Packard Serviceman's Training Manual. Upper unit is only oiled mesh, lower is oil bath.
Posted on: 2015/11/22 14:57
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In 1952 the oil bath option was the round one shown in the second photo of the first post. I believe it was the only year it was used, and it was used on everything, even Patricians. Perhaps the across the engine style was viewed as too much metal to waste during wartime. If you didn't get an oil bath, you got the bird strainer that Owen showed in his post.
A few of the across the engine types had the oil-wetted filter during the early bathtub era. The filter element was mounted vertically on the end of the big cylinder. I have never seen one of them in real life. All of the rest of the cross the engine filters were proper oil baths. A word of caution on rushing out to buy one: you will notice that the air comes out the bottom of the big cylinder on the 22-23d series cars, as in the photo in the first post. To fit the 51-54 cars the air comes out the top of the big cylinder as in the second photo in Owen's post. You can put a late one on an early car, but if you try to put a bathtub unit on a 51-54, the hood will not shut.
Posted on: 2015/11/22 19:12
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Thanks for the insights guys, good info and I think my questions are answered. I'm not planning to rush out and change my filter, I actually prefer the more compact style AC oil bath that I have anyway.
Nice structural issue that Ross points out, I never noticed that. Maybe you found that out the hard way once? In today's Craigslist recital there is an ad for a set of 4 cars, looks like the one '53 that shows an engine picture has the AC filter too, though who knows what has been traded around on a car during the previous 60-odd years.
Posted on: 2015/11/24 20:56
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My 54 clipper didn't come with a oil bath air cleaner. Instead, I found a paper type filter in the trunk. The filter size is 4"h x 8"dia. It sits on a assembly that goes over the 2 1/2" carb opening. Inside the filter base is a cone with holes all over it.(1/8in? or less)
At first I thought this was off some piece of farm equipment because the underside of the base is orange, like the International, or Case tractors, equipment, etc. Then I remembered that the Packard engines were painted orange. Therefore thinking this maybe a packard original. However, after reading this thread, I'm back to thinking it's from a piece of farm equipment, unless someone tells me other wise. The car came from Iowa. Attach file: (25.84 KB) (25.32 KB)
Posted on: 2016/7/14 23:43
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Then I remembered that the Packard engines were painted orange
Unaware of any Packard engines painted Orange.
Posted on: 2016/7/15 8:55
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So what should the color of '54 engine be?
Posted on: 2016/7/15 20:35
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