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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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With Wat’s help, the anti-rattle device for the parking brake equalizer has been identified! Just a little spring-like wire from one side to the other and is shown here at the red arrow. Photo by Wat.

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Re: Resurrecting a 1951 Henney-Packard Parts Car
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On the anti-rattle spring clip, I see now that there is a tiny groove in the carrier bearing plate where the spring goes. I hadn't noticed it before and it also confirms that I have the equalizer rod in the proper hole because it's right below it.

Posted on: 2023/7/13 21:10
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Is there a modern cross-over number for R11 overdrive rear shaft seal, Packard PN 371876? Oddly, when I look in the Parts Cross-Reference on this site, I see that someone posted one for the earlier models but for some reason, they gave the original Packard part number which isn't helpful at all!

Also, is there anyone here with a senior 1951-1954 Henney who can show me where the rear tailpipe hanger goes and what it looks like? The only one I see is above the rear axle which is a long way to the tip of the pipe.

The first photo is supposed to be the rear hanger but I expect it is the one that goes above the axle hump as I see what appears to be a part of an aftermarket hanger there as shown in the second photo.The hanger in the first photo has apparently been pivoted 180 degrees and does not want to pivot back but I’m not sure. If it goes the way it is, I have no idea where it attaches!

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Posted on: 2023/7/13 21:15
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An S-P seal xref put together by someone connected with Studebaker or the club and posted on one of their sites several years ago lists crossovers for that Packard number:

#371876 Victor 49659 C/R 16817 National 473235

Using the SK cross reference seal finder the Victor number crosses to an SK seal 16817. The National number crosses to a SK 16814 which looks to have a wider width. You might compare dimensions with the original and see if either looks like it would work.

Posted on: 2023/7/13 21:54
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Thank you, Howard! By width, did you mean thickness? If so, there is plenty room so that's not an issue if it's thicker than original but I don't have an original to actually compare. I just discovered a little while ago that in my last day haste the last time, I put the seal in backwards so had to destroy it to get it out. Not much left of it.

Edit: I looked at the dimensions and for future reference the SK 16814 does not look like a good replacement at all as it's very thin while the SK 16817 looks closer in size. However, if the illustration is accurate, these are both simple single ring seals while the original had the rubber seal and a felt seal together.

Posted on: 2023/7/13 22:00
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I believe width would be thickness and one is about 3/8 and the other is 1/2. The OD and ID are about the same on both but if you don't have the old one you might need to get something to measure the bore and shaft.

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Howard, I added to my last comment before I saw your reply! I do have the yoke and, of course, I can measure the transmission bore and depth itself.

Posted on: 2023/7/13 22:24
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Edit: I looked at the dimensions and for future reference the SK 16814 does not look like a good replacement at all as it's very thin while the SK 16817 looks closer in size. However, if the illustration is accurate, these are both simple single ring seals while the original had the rubber seal and a felt seal together.

You might call Max or Kanter or even one of the B-W specialist places like Herm The Overdrive Guy and see what they currently sell as a replacement. It could have been a special made seal or maybe it was reproduced and is something the overdrive places sell.

Posted on: 2023/7/13 23:03
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I was hoping to get one locally in a hurry as my time here at the shop is very limited. I did send a note to Fred at Max Merritt as I know he has them but he's so far away that it takes time to get things to me clear out on the High Desert of Central Oregon!

Posted on: 2023/7/13 23:06
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Fred (not the cat) has one on the way to me by Priority Mail which is usually much faster than UPS in the very rural area even if it means that I have to drive a mile up a dirt road to pick it up at the community mailbox. The post office doesn't want to get its tires dirty by driving on the dirt roads so they deliver were the pavement ends.

I realized last night that the heat riser, while it isn't stuck as I expected it would be, has no spring so I ordered that too and I also ordered the seal between the exhaust pipe and manifold as it feels a little loose. Not surprising as it's been supporting the weight of the engine for many years! On the heat riser, while I didn't actually look at it, the pin that anchors the springs feels intact but won't be sure until I get into it.

On the heat riser - and I know this has been asked many times - up is open, correct? I am not looking forward to installing the spring as the tires on this car, being 7.50X16 8ply are very heavy and I expect it's best to do it from the side after removing the inner panel. This car really benefits from the pin to help hold up the wheel while getting the bolts started!

I am still unsure about the tail pipe hangers but I see that the parts book plate shows one like that in the photo I posted which looks the same and it is toward the rear. This pipe, of course, is considerably longer and comes out right along the right side of the chassis where all the bumper brackets are and I see no extra holes for the mount. There is a PCS Henney Chapter Zoom meeting tonight but I would hate to ask such a question there!

Posted on: 2023/7/14 13:19
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