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Todd W. White

What Do I Have?

Just can't stay away

Hello All!

I have 2 different Cormorant hood ornaments that are supposed to be correct for my 1949 22nd Series DeLuxe Eight Touring Sedan, and I am not sure which is the one I should put on my vehicle.

One of them is much lighter than the other. It is hollow, and the base has a part number cast into it, #394757. The heavier one has no numbers cast into it, although my research indicates that the correct part number for my car is #PA-407949. The wingspan on the lighter bird is wider than the heavier one. The lighter base has a chamfered top to accept the hollow bird while the heavier one does not, and the tail of the hollow bird is less sculpted than it's heavier counterpart.

The heavier bird is solid, not hollow. It's base is considerably heavier than the one marked #394757, though both bases present the same footprint, including where the bolts are located.

Both sets of wings are virtually the same, but the lighter bird's wings have a shorter horizontal mark than the one on the wings of the heavier bird.

Can anyone shed some light on these two hood ornaments, and tell me which one is correct for my car?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted on: Yesterday 13:15

Todd W. White
Sapulpa, Okla.
1949 2262 DeLuxe Eight Touring Sedan

humanpotatohybrid

Re: What Do I Have?

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394757 is part 394755.

Posted on: Yesterday 13:54

Todd W. White

Re: What Do I Have?

Just can't stay away

Does that number supersede the one that's on the part I have?

Posted on: Yesterday 14:02

Todd W. White
Sapulpa, Okla.
1949 2262 DeLuxe Eight Touring Sedan

Packard Don

Re: What Do I Have?

Home away from home

That is a casting number, not a part number, but they do sometimes coincide although more often they are a number or two off from each other. However, i have never seen one with the flat bottom so my guess is that’s a reproduction or aftermarket. The base casting seems much rougher too which somewhat confirms that aftermarket theory. There was someone a while back on Facebook that swore the Cormorants they were selling were originals but they were not and this appears to be similar to those.

Posted on: Yesterday 14:18

All generalities are false.

Don Pierson
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1951 Henney-Packard 3-Door Long Wheelbase Air Force Ambulance
1954 Packard Patrician
1954 Packard Patrician Parts Car
1956 Clipper Custom Sedan

Todd W. White

Re: What Do I Have?

Just can't stay away

Well, it would appear that the heavier one, indeed, is a reproduction. Look at the pitch of the wings, when viewed dead on center on the head of the bird. The Packard wings (the ones with no red riding on them) spread out from the vertical zero line equally, whereas the reproduction does not. Thanks guys - if you hadn't pointed out that it was possibly a reproduction, I wouldn't have looked at it more closely.

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Posted on: Yesterday 14:48

Todd W. White
Sapulpa, Okla.
1949 2262 DeLuxe Eight Touring Sedan

53 Cavalier

Re: What Do I Have?

Home away from home

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Todd W. White wrote:
Well, it would appear that the heavier one, indeed, is a reproduction. Look at the pitch of the wings, when viewed dead on center on the head of the bird. The Packard wings (the ones with no red riding on them) spread out from the vertical zero line equally, whereas the reproduction does not. Thanks guys - if you hadn't pointed out that it was possibly a reproduction, I wouldn't have looked at it more closely.

Those wings on the heavy one are whacky for sure. Good job on making sure you car has original parts on it!