Re: No power and popping noises after generator installation '36 STD 8
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Number one is very likely stuck rings.
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Re: No power and popping noises after generator installation '36 STD 8
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You could still have stuck rings or sticking valves that do not seat fully. I'd re-check the valve clearances and squirt some Marvel Mystery oil (about a tablespoon full) into the "bad' cylinders and then crank the engine with the spark plugs out and observe the valve action. If the valve clearance appears to change, it could be due to sticking calves, weak springs, debris under the valve faces, or the cam not on the base circle when the adjustment was made. Intake valves rarely burn, and no valves burn when an engine is sitting, and a head gasket leak is very unlikely to develop in an engine that is not running. If the engine ran well before the generator work, it should run as well after.
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Re: No power and popping noises after generator installation '36 STD 8
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I'd check the valve action very thoroughly before pulling the cylinder head. If the valves are sticky or have debris between the valves and seats, running the engine at a fast idle, about 1,000 RPM, while squirting or dribbling something like Marvel Mystery Oil into the carburetor intake may clear up the problem. Doing this will generate a lot of smoke, so do it outdoors, preferably on a breezy day.
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Re: No power and popping noises after generator installation '36 STD 8
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Thank you for the tips. I will certainly do that but here's the real problem ... blown gasket. Someone mentioned it early on and you were right on it. So cyl 6 & 7 were 'talking' to one another which explains why when pressurizing #7 air came out the exhaust (#6 exhaust valve was open) and when pressurizing #6 air came out the carburetor (#7 intake was open). Problem solved - I will definitely take the bits of advice and make sure I cover all the bases before I seal her up again.
Thank you again for all the great help.
Posted on: Yesterday 17:36
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Re: No power and popping noises after generator installation '36 STD 8
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No question the gasket is bad... but on a compression test, it should only affect the two cylinders on either side of the break. When the engine is running, it can affect other cylinders to some degree by disrupting the mixture in the intake manifold. I'd look for evidence as to why it failed. Other sections of the gasket look suspiciuously sooty. The correct tightening pattern and procedure for the head nuts is crucial, and several retorqes are advisable to assure a good seal.
Posted on: Yesterday 18:25
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Re: No power and popping noises after generator installation '36 STD 8
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Glad you found the source of the problem. A blown head gasket will mess with the leak down results, as you found. If two adjacent cylinders are zero, or nearly so, on compression then very likely it's a blown gasket.
Now with the head off you can double check the valves you are concerned about. But my guess is a new gasket and proper torquing sequence (multiple times) will solve the problem. The head and block surface must be spotless before a new gasket. An old engine builder friend recommended 8-10 coats of copper gasket spray on both sides of the gasket when we did a recent valve job on a '52. We did not machine the head.
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Thank you for the tip.
About 5 years ago I replaced all the valves, guides and ground the seats (which were replaced back around 2007 or so). At that time I had a gent that runs one of the best machine shops in my area come out and we placed a straight edge on the block and it checked out ok (which I fully expected since it was milled when rebuilt), then he took the head and milled it as well. I'm looking at the gasket which I got from Olson's gaskets and what they have on their website now looks different than what I have. Maybe they updated their design. I have also contacted Egge and Bestgaskets.com to see if I can possibly get my hands on an NOS one. I followed the torque sequence to a T and re-checked it periodically with favorable results. I'm hoping to either find an NOS gasket or maybe this new design from Olson's (pic attached) will last longer than 5 years. I don't think I have more than 500 miles on the car if that since the last time I replaced the gasket. I do agree that if you look closely at the gasket, it certainly looks like it wasn't 'crushed' enough. I also did not put as many coats of the copper gasket spray as was mentioned in the previous post. I may have put one to two coats per side.
Posted on: Yesterday 20:17
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Re: No power and popping noises after generator installation '36 STD 8
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I don't know about 1936 but when milling a Packard head in general, one has to be very careful and do so only if absolutely necessary as there is a very little clearance between the valves and the combustion chamber. Was it checked for clearance after the milling?
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