Re: Sudden Engine Cutout During Warm-up??
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Having had to do most of these things on my car just to get it running halfway decent, I concur with Mr. Pushbutton. An excellent post!!
Ken Dunning kens53clip
Posted on: 2009/7/9 12:16
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Re: Sudden Engine Cutout During Warm-up??
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I'd say that the tube in question is most definitely the road draft tube.
Posted on: 2009/7/9 12:42
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Having had to do most of these things on my car just to get it running halfway decent, I concur with Mr. Pushbutton. An excellent post!!
Ken Dunning Yeah Ken, we usually stumble through these things one at a time, make the car run again until the next thing goes kablooey. I learned working on a 240 car collection where there were new cars coming in regularly how to make an unknown car (whole new game) a reliable member of the fleet.
Posted on: 2009/7/9 13:32
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So it's definitely the road draft tube. Not a big deal, it's just un-clipped. Thanks for the rundown Mr. Pushbutton. I'm on the right track for everything mentioned it's just that I've been going off of intuition rather than tested knowledge of folks like yourself. Electrical is pretty well sorted now. I have a tuneup kit on the way for the other incidentals in that area. About to order the fuel pump kit and have the water pump rebuilt. One thing that concerns me, or maybe I shouldn't be concerned with it depending on how some of you guys feel about it, is that the guy I bought off of had replaced the fuel tank with a very clean and new looking VW fuel tank and it fits the space very well. Is it OK to keep that on for a while as long as it is of good condition and fits or are there some problems with doing that which I'm unaware of? I have to take a deep breath when I see the cost of the real deal replacement tanks. I also noticed that the distributor does have some wobble in it... how large of an operation are we talking about for a fix like that?
Posted on: 2009/7/9 18:39
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Will let others speak to the dist wobble but as to gas tank, if it fits, in & out connections in approximately the right place, capacity is adequate and fuel sender mounts without too much trouble and works, let us know as much info as possible re model VW etc. The only thing is make sure it is vented or has a vented cap, otherwise unless you just have to have a Packard tank no need to change if it does the job.
Finding a good Packard gas tank is starting to get hard and expensive to have repaired so any possible alternatives can certainly be listed in the x-ref section.
Posted on: 2009/7/9 18:57
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If you are speaking of the distributor shaft wobbling in the distributor, then yes you will need to address the problem. Your points will not open correctly and consistently. Which of course causes poor running characteristics (missing).
It sounds like your distributor need to have the housing bushed which will remove the wobble. Or you can get a replacement distributor that is in good condition. Good luck.
Posted on: 2009/7/9 19:29
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Re: Distributor wobble-- there are places that re-bush them listed in Hemmings in the "services offered" section. I used to ave a local shop that did it, they went put of business.
Posted on: 2009/7/9 20:01
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If the distributor shaft wobble side-to-side can be felt but not seen, it's probably marginally OK but if you can see ANY movement, it needs attention. It's not a difficult job for a reasonably handy person to rebush a distributor. I have often seen and bought various distributor shaft bushings at various flea markets just to have them on hand, or they can be made or purchased, if not in correct dimensions, in close-to the needed size and turned to needed dimensions. A nice, pleasant job for the home mechanic.
However, worn distributor bushings usually give erratic and poor performance, but don't give a complete engine cut-out when warmed up.
Posted on: 2009/7/9 22:21
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No, Owen-D, it will not cause the cut out. If anything it will make for hard starting. I offered it up in a list of things often needed when making an old car reliable. I worked on a friend's 1973 Pontiac Grand AM, a one-owner car (my late friend's) and the distributr was so badly worn that it would not start at times. Once it started you couldn't kill it. He had the car worked on at a local (Chcago area) garage, and I had the engne rebuilt for him here in Detroit, and no one addressed the distributor until I got into it, car wouldn't start and everything was basically OK, had fuel, at the carb, had spark, had spark @-near TDC, engine no runny. Got to looing at the distributor, holy Wah did it have play. Rebushed it, everything got good in a hurry. It's just something that shouldn't be overlooked in an overall reliability scheme.
Another topic drifted off course.
Posted on: 2009/7/10 10:22
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