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One thing that helped Hudson was the body was lower and thus better roadability the most cars of the time. Hudson did a lot of tweaking of the engine to get more power. race on Sunday improve on Monday which Hudson did
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Yeah, the Flock brothers just stuck it second gear and kept it floored. Everyone else just ate dust. But these were real STOCK cars - not the shells they run today. I bet there would be a big audience for real stock cars today.
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Tim Flock won his first race in a Hudson on November 11, 1951 at a 100 mile race in Atlanta.
John F. Shireman
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Hi
The wins in Hudson had more to do with the roadability and lower center of gravity of the Step-Down Hudsons versus the competitors than the engines. Nice that Hudson had one last hurrah before oblivion! Steve
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The engine in the cars that ran the NASCAR races was a special package labeled 7-X "severe usage" (code name for racing), they had a higher compression ratio than the grocery-getter engine.
Anyone could order this package when they orddered their new Hudson, if they knew about it.
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The 7X was a LOT more than higher compression. It was a 232 head on the 308, larger valves, VERY deep valve reliefs, a hotter cam, and a LOT of internal massaging done to the crank, lifters and lifter bores, and rods. It really was a special engine, and I'm convinced that some of those tricks can be done on the Packard straight eights.
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In 1951 Hudson placed first in 12 of the 41 NASCAR races that year.
John F. Shireman
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Turbopackman wrote: The 7X ......was a 232 head on the 308, larger valves, VERY deep valve reliefs, a hotter cam, and a LOT of internal massaging done to the crank, lifters and lifter bores, and rods.....and I'm convinced that some of those tricks can be done on the Packard straight eights. Ah-ha!......now we know where Eric get's his ideas from, well at least some of them.
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Yes, but according to our new member the valve reliefs are not needed. Anything that saves me money in machining is a good thing, so I won't be doing that on my engine. I WILL do the standard port-n-polish though. Smoothing up those ports are a no brainer.
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