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54 Packard - Removing the Thermostat Housing Bolts
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Just a basic question for the forum members who deal with this issue, I'm sure over and over. After a month or so of debating whether to put alot of force to remove the 2 bolts that hold down the thermostat flange (cover) I decided to go for it. I bought a torque wrench and leaned into it. I think it was coming loose and then all of a sudden - snap! The bolt broke in half. So my question is - where did I go wrong? I hit it with WD40 about a week ago. A friend told me I needed to remove it while it was hot. I'm taking it over to an auto repair shop tomorrow where I'm hoping they can remove the half bolt left in the head and while it's in there, I'll have them put in the new thermostat. I was cranking it to the counterclockwise when it snapped. Thanks for the advice.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 20:42
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Re: 54 Packard - Removing the Thermostat Housing Bolts
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It's a happenstance that comes with the hobby and bites all of us at some time. But for the future, WD-40 is a decent rust preventative but almost ineffective at loosening it. Try PB-Blaster, perhaps the best, next time. Croil is another. Heat would have helped.

Good machine shops deal with this all the time, I'm sure they'll get you back in business in no time.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 20:51
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Re: 54 Packard - Removing the Thermostat Housing Bolts
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I have read on a number of websites that a 50:50 mixture of automatic trans. fluid and acetone works very well but PB Blaster what I use.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 21:03
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Re: 54 Packard - Removing the Thermostat Housing Bolts
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Heat is about the only thing that would have helped. I mean the kind of heat you get from an acetylene torch or electric arc welder with a carbon rod. Heat it red.

I've never seen a penetrating oil that will penetrate a tight, seized or rusted nut or bolt. WD40 is the most over rated product on the market.

I have had some success with sandblasting. After sandblasting off the rust, rusty bolts come loose much more easily. I mean where the bolt is sticking out of the nut.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 21:43
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Re: 54 Packard - Removing the Thermostat Housing Bolts
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I have had considerable success using an impact gun and of course six-point impact sockets. I always spray with PB Blaster the day before. The impact gun does not put a constant twisting strain on the part.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 21:46
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Re: 54 Packard - Removing the Thermostat Housing Bolts
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I agree with Randy. An impact gun is great for removing stuck fasteners without snapping them. A torque wrench is not needed for removing fasteners, only tightening them to recommend specs.

WD is just about worthless as a penetrator. Buy some PB Blaster, hit the area with a wire brush to remove any paint or rust scale, and then soak with PB Blaster. Give it a day to soak in really good, and then a coupe of hits with an Impact gun should break it loose without snapping it.

The hammering action of the Impact sends the force down the length of the bolt helping to break it free. As opposed to just a socket wrench that will simply twist the head off of a stuck bolt.

Luckily the thermostat bolts should be very easy to drill out.

Posted on: 2009/11/11 22:32
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Re: 54 Packard - Removing the Thermostat Housing Bolts
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Thanks All for the advice. Tomorrow - I'll get the estimate to fix - Frank

Posted on: 2009/11/12 18:49
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