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HH56

Re: V8 engine castings

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In post 178 of that forum there is talk of a "dual-range" Ultramatic that was proposed but never produced. Can he be talking of the gear start or Twin Ultra with a faulty description or was there actually a different one proposed for 57 along those lines. I know they were working on more changes but don't recall ever hearing it called a dual range.

Posted on: 2010/8/27 21:51

Craig Hendrickson

Re: V8 engine castings

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The picture associated with post #163 in the link posted by PackardV8 says:

Buxbaum Bros Automotive Machine, Inc.

Apparently they are still in business in Ridgefield Park,NJ.

Posted on: 2010/8/27 22:12

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Owen_Dyneto

Re: V8 engine castings

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Craig, Buxbaum Bros. is the firm that did the restoration of the Stokes engines (and many other Packard marine engines) that have been donated to the various Packard museums by a local benefactor here in NJ.

It's a fine engine rebuilding shop and has done quite a few Packard engines for local enthusiasts. They are quite fully equipped, do their own crankshaft grinding for example, but don't do babbitt.

Posted on: 2010/8/27 22:24

Randy Berger

Re: V8 engine castings

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Well, it's nice to know that I'm considered a local

I would consider it an honor to be a local with my friends in NJ. I guess I'll get my next engine built by Buxbaum also.

Posted on: 2010/8/27 23:07

56executive

Re: V8 engine castings

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When we bought the Packard parts from SASCO it included 2 crates of red water pump manifolds which may have been removed from engines purchased by Stokes

Posted on: 2010/8/28 16:27

Owen_Dyneto

Re: V8 engine castings

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I believe the counter rotation can be achieved with the gear box. I have seen BW Velvet Drives stamped RH or LH.

I agree with Packard8's comment earlier in this thread that different rotations can be achieved with a gearbox, but there seemed some doubt that the Packard Marine engines were actually built in either rotation. I just came across a data plate from one of Packard's IM-357 marine engines and you'll note it was, like the postwar IM-245 and 356 engines, available in either clockwise or counterclockwise rotation; pairs with counter-rotation were used on dual prop-shaft installations.

The unconventional firing order for right-hand rotation was also used on the 1st and 2nd Series Eight (1923-1926 automotive motors.

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Posted on: 2010/9/3 15:34

John Wallis

Re: V8 engine castings

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Quote:

Owen_Dyneto wrote:
I believe the counter rotation can be achieved with the gear box. I have seen BW Velvet Drives stamped RH or LH.

I agree with Packard8's comment earlier in this thread that different rotations can be achieved with a gearbox, but there seemed some doubt that the Packard Marine engines were actually built in either rotation. I just came across a data plate from one of Packard's IM-357 marine engines and you'll note it was, like the postwar IM-245 and 356 engines, available in either clockwise or counterclockwise rotation; pairs with counter-rotation were used on dual prop-shaft installations.

The unconventional firing order for right-hand rotation was also used on the 1st and 2nd Series Eight (1923-1926 automotive motors.

Very interesting. That must have been in the heyday financially when they could afford the resources to make counter-rotating engines with custom firing orders!

I suspect that by the time the V-8's were offered they were all aftermarket conversions of what were probably surplus engines. The one I have has a serial number of SP-087 on the boss next to the oil filler tube. I'm guessing the "SP" is Studebaker Packard?

Posted on: 2010/9/3 16:19

John Wallis

Re: V8 engine castings

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Found some pix of the one I have in storage. It has "Andres Marine Stockton Ca" on the water-cooled manifolds and the stainless and copper work is quite professional looking. Also note the dual thermostats and custom oil filler tube. It has a bracket and pulley for a circulating raw water pump but the pump is missing. It has a manual reverse gear, possibly a Paragon brand.

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