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Dongle; I have been around posting in Packard forums since 1998. I first started out in the forum that was on Classicar.com. The site and forum failed because of money troubles that the persons had that ran that forum.

The reason that the AACA Packard forum has failed is because
of the back handed control PAC has had in subject matter posted in the AACA Packard forum. The administrators of the AACA Packard forum have been more than happy to go along with the wishes of certain people running PAC. Maybe it is time for those people doing PAC's bidding at the AACA to take a look in the mirror at some of the actions they have taken in the past.

Over the next couple of days I intend to fully reveal, some of the tactics and pressure used to try and silence me when I questions and opposed PAC on the 1965 V12 article they published.


John F. Shireman

Yup, we also have the right to explain why we disagree. But this, of course, is coming from a whinny, liberal dendrophiliac.

I have not asked for an apology.

Stating an opinion that something is offensive may be like crying about spilled milk. It also might be like crying over spilled acid.

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No sniping intended, just speaking the facts.
#1,I made a joke, you took offence to it, I told you to F&#K off, plain and simple.
#2, Like I said before, I was stating an opinion, take it or leave it.

No contest intended, I'm just "speaking" my mind about the issue. There are those of us who are very opinionated here, and have differences in opinions. Like it or not, that's the rules of the sandbox, like it or leave it. I have no problem with people speaking their minds about something, and I respect their opinions. I can still tell them to F^&K off if I like, and you can do the same.

Tom, my post was NOT directed towards you, just so you know.

Alrighty folks, lets all remain gentlemen.

I know we are all a lot of strong willed folks here that are passionate in their opinions. That being said, I think we have all said our piece, so let us all move on to more constructive lines of conversation.

Amen to that Big Kev !

Amen indeed, some common sense at last, I was beginning to think we had time-warped into misc. chat on the AACA site.

AL K: The three of us BH, Eric, and myself strongly believe in certain opinions that we have. Sometimes we voice our thoughts on what is happening in other Packard venues. May be not in ways some people like, but we do it to remind everyone in this hobby that not everything is peaches and cream.

The one thing that all three of us like is having been able to get in the ground floor. Helping this website and forum
to grow and out class any other Packard website around.

Your Packard's in the movies list would get a lot more exposure over here on this website than it has over on the PAC website. Have you ever considered donating a copy of that list so it could be posted on this web site.

John F. Shireman

John, while the Movie list is a good idea, I wouldnt want to just copy what has already been posted on the PAC site. Similar to why we havent resurrected Brian's Book thread over here yet. The problem with static lists is that they are not easily added to my the user base at large, and I wouldnt want to just use a forum thread for that can get buried over time.

But if you guys had enough interest in this, they we I would create a simple module where you guys could add Movies, Descriptions, and approx time into the film where the sighting occurs. Once it's database driven rather then a static list, then it could be searched and sorted.

If we decide to go down that road if there is enough interest, then AL would be more than welcome to add any listings if he wishes.

Along those lines, I wouldnt mind doing the same type of user-driven listing for to encapsulate Brian's bookthread, where people can at a book listing, and then leave a little review on it. Also people then could leave comments about it.

Those type of database driven list modules are pretty easy to code-up and deploy here on the website. Once I build it once, I can replicate it for any other lists we want to maintain.

Ideas? Comments? Questions? Concerns? Feedback appreciated.

Kev -

I have all the info I used to create the old Bookshelf thread - and more - for your use, but I'd rather you start another thread to discuss this. Meanwhile, see my PM to you.