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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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I know this is probably hard to picture in your head but its a mess right now and there is no way to get vise grips on it.


Not hard to picture at all, I think we have all been there. Lots of Packards have probably had words used on them that are not repeated in polite company.

If you haven't done so already, would suggest a liberal spritz of PB Blaster or your favorite concoction on the remaining doors -- and pretty much any bolt you contemplate removing -- and let it do it's thing before you tackle them.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 11:06
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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following along with you reminds me of 2008 when i brought mine home. its like watching myself. pretty fun!

also remember...pictures pictures pictures....take tons of them. close ups, etc.

i wish i had more myself.

i will be pming you soon for some pics at this stage of your car if you are willing to help me out.

good luck with that door! dont give up!

Posted on: 2013/10/3 11:45
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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I will 2nd the recommendation about spraying Everything with a good soaking of your penetrating solution. I have done this for weeks on things I know I will be taking apart, so that i give the solution plenty of time to work, and it makes me look at the part more than once.

Sometimes I think the cars remember what we say to them

Posted on: 2013/10/3 11:54
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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after soaking....an impact wrench is usually less prone to breaking a fastener on disassemble than just shear muscle power on a standard wrench.

Posted on: 2013/10/3 13:10
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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I broke that bolt about a month ago before I discovered PB blaster in some of the threads here. I blast the heck out of every thing now.

I've discovered that the impact wrench seems to be little more gentle on these old bolts. I just keep forgetting that I have one.

I take 10 times more pictures then I post here.

I think cutting the door is my best option at this point? Plan to cut the top where the red lines are in the pic below. Bend it back as needed to remove the window. Remove the broken bolt. Weld the door back together.

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Posted on: 2013/10/3 15:35
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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I finally got that wing window removed. I made the cut as I mentioned before (image 1) and it would not budge so, I cut all the way across the bottom of the wing window as seen in image 2. That got the job done. Once the window was removed I could see the piece that was welded below it, image 3. I had no idea that was there. It explains why my first cut wasn't enough.

Started working on the driver's side door Saturday. This side was much easier. In two hours I was able to do almost everything that took me 3 weeks on the passenger side door. A couple weeks ago I posted an image of what appeared to be a modification that had been made to that door. I found several more but can't make any since out of them. There were two pieces of angle iron bolted inside the door. Image 4 shows that bolt placement from the outside. I used Photoshop to draw some red lines on the image. In Image 5 I laid the angle iron on top the passenger side door to give you an idea of its location.

None of the original holes or bolts appeared to be damage or out of alignment. Nothing inside the door was attached to the angle iron. It appeared to be an original Packard window regulator. Identical to the one removed from the passenger side door (except reversed).

The door is still attached to the car because of one hinge bolt. That top, inside bolt is so hard to reach and very tight. I'll spray it for a few days and try again. That's the last bolt on the car that I want to break off.

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Posted on: 2013/10/6 16:23
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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I don't recall ever seeing any factory reinforcements like that -- but that isn't saying much.

Are the power window setups stock Packard? If not, I would wonder if that might be the reason. Something to accommodate a different regulator.

If Packard mechanism, IIRC when the window hits either stop, with the design of the two part regulator -- motor pushing or pulling the link against the single bolt center pivot -- the action between the two pieces is strong enough to sort of flex the inner panel. Perhaps the panel was cracked or weak and that was something added to minimize the motion.

Posted on: 2013/10/6 16:43
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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Got a question.
Are the rear windows supposed to slide out of the bracket once the pivot bolt has been removed? If so, does it have to be at a certain angle to remove. Been fighting the first one of mine since yesterday.

Posted on: 2013/10/8 17:54
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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I wish I could be of more help, I didnt' take pics for poop and I can't remember as far back as 2008 when I took mine out to remember specifics. I do remember those back windows were PITA! to get out.

Posted on: 2013/10/8 19:37
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Re: Stewart's 1955 Packard 400
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Do they not slide back or do they not fit thru the opening? IIRC, the sheet metal opening may have to be spread slightly and the glass has to be straight, not cocked when trying to remove from the pivot.

Posted on: 2013/10/8 19:43
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