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Maybe I misjudged the interest in this topic; I'll post a couple of pictures and see if it revives. First is a 5413-5450 by Derham owned at the time by George Hamlin. It was a left-over 1953 Henney limousine updated to 1954 and then given the Derham treatment. Picture courtesy of PAC's The Packard Cormorant.

Second is also by Derham, but much more of a coachbuilt car, one of two 47 Custom Super Clipper convertible sedans.

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I think Owen is referring to a Derham job.

I first saw a pic of the '56 Patrician Derham formal, back in the 1970s, on the AQ poster, Packard: The Postwar Years. I believe that same image is shown in a color plate in the Kimes book.

Speaking of postwar coachbuilders, while I know that Rollson didn't build any cars after WWII, I just found an auction notice about their complete facility being auctioned off in Plainview New York on October 15-16. Is Rollson now defunct?

http://www.kosterindustries.com/documents/8090666_FINAL.pdf

Boy, that sure sounds like they're going belly-up. I can only hope the donate their custom car body records to the Gilmore Museum, or the CCCA or some other organization, it would truly be a shame to see those records just fade away.

Owen: I was going through the Kimes book today and came across another coachbuilt Packard by Derham. One page 539 a Packard Super Eight all weather custom. Another one on the same page Super Eight four door convertible by Worblaufen of West Germany.

John F. Shireman

Gusha: Looks like you have found a mistake in the Packard book by Kimes. I guess it would be kind of late to write her and notify her of the mistake, since she has passed away.

When I posted that information I was kind of wondering what firm would have had the resources in Germany to produce a custom bodied Packard so soon after WWII.

There was another great coach building firm in Switzerland by the name of Graeber. I hope that is the right spelling. I know that they did some custom coach on RR chassis. Could you please give me some history on this firm.


John F. Shireman

Funny you should mention George Hamlin, he walked into my place of work yesterday, we had a little Packard chat amid the Chryslers.

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Here is a link to a recently found 1938 Packard with a Graber body on it, which looks almost exactly like a Graber-bodied Duesenberg owned by Sam Mann.
http://forums.aaca.org/ubbthreads.php/topics/550364/Barn_Find_in_Switzerland#Post550364

Just a suggestion, how about sticking to the original subject of the postwar coachbuilt and semi-customs, and if you want to start another thread on prewar coachbuilders and their products, that's fine with me and is a terrific topic.

Or have we just worn this topic out?

Owen: Stop lecturing me as to what and how I should post
information or ask questions.

John F. Shireman